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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

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    Default HP/Loan car agreement legal??

    Hi!

    I bought a car 2 1/2 years ago from Carcraft and have had nothing but trouble ever since.

    my query is that they split the agreement up into three payments and im not sure if this is legal or not.

    I have the following agreements:-

    1x HP Agreement with British Credit Trust
    1x Fixed Personal Loan with British Credit trust
    1x Peronsal loan with Open & Direct

    The HP Is the larger of the three agreements and i have spoken with them who are pretty unhelpful. I am looking at getting out of the agreements and i have spoken with some car dealers so far and they all looked confused when i advise them of this and say that only the HP is against the car.

    The car is aprox £2000 in negative equity and so im struggling to part-ex and afford a new car due to the added costs of the current HP.

    i am aware of Volantry Termination but im £400 short of this and have been told it will go again my credit report. Does anyone know if i was request volantry termination of the HP i would have to pay the £400 or would they refuse as i have to wait till the £400 clears over the next couple of months?

    Any help in this matter would be a great help!


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    This is very strange - if they are separate agreements, they are right that only the HP agreement will be "secured" against the vehicle. The other 2 being loans won't be secured in that way.

    What were the additional loans for? Presumably, to pay for the car? In that case, how can you be in negative equity, so to speak, with the car, if there are loans that aren't secured on the car? I suppose that depends what the loans were for? PPIicon, etc?

    In order to VT, you'll need to meet the VT figures set out on the agreement. If you haven't met the figures, you can't VT the agreement. If you pay the shortfall, (now or by maintaining payments for a few months) then you can VT, but you must meet the figures as set out in the agreement.

    It would be worth posting the agreements up, (personal dataicon removed first, of course) so we can assess their enforceability, etc, also.

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    Thanks for your reply. The other two loans are "top up loans" i will arrange for them to be scanned and posted in the next day or so.

    The Car itself has a trade in cost of £2300-£2775 depending where you go and the remaining finance on the Hp is £4018.The VT is £5930 and i have paid £5520 so far. do you think they would accept the remaining balance to bring the agreement up to £5930 up front or would they drag the agreement out as long as they can?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh2403 View Post
    The Car itself has a trade in cost of £2300-£2775 depending where you go and the remaining finance on the Hp is £4018.The VT is £5930 and i have paid £5520 so far. do you think they would accept the remaining balance to bring the agreement up to £5930 up front or would they drag the agreement out as long as they can?
    it's really not their choice - it's up to you - once you've paid enough, they can't stop you VT'ing.

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