Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

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    Hi need some advice please
    Sent cca request to barclaycard at end of Jan, still no reply, have sent reminders, have got untll 27/03 to reply.
    2 weeks ago sent off SARicon to Barclaysicon,address in london, as have current account & personal loan, as well as the creditcards, they sent back a lot of computer print outs, which will take me ages to go through but nothing regarding the credit cards, no agreements,nothing signed.
    but on the loan,the computer print out states that the account was closed last oct, and the amount transfered to another account, no details of this account,so dont know how much is outstanding,are they allowed to do this as we know nothing of it. we are still paying the loan, how can i find out if they have the agreement for the orginal loan, the orginal loan was signed for in a car park!! and was taken out in 2006.
    thanks fo any advise.


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    Default Re: LG29 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi LG,

    I've set this thread up to keep your BC a/c separate from the bank a/c's. So use this JUST for the BC a/c.

    Be aware that BC will only send back a set of T&C's in response to your CCA request.

    Read Link No2 in my signatureicon below about using the CPR route as an alternative strategy to get sight of any Credit Agreement.

    If you've had any penalty charges on this a/c, BC will repay them readily. Read the Reclaiming Guide at Link No1 in my sig're.

    If you don't have your last 6 year's state's, send off a SARicon.

    If you do have the state's, fill in a Site spreadsheet and send to BC with this letter - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...RD-letter.html



    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: LG29 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi slick
    I sent off cca request in Jan, SARicon request 2 weeks ago, have heard nothing, in total we have 5 cards with barclaycard, not sure how we got so many but have had them all well over 15 years except 1 that was changed last year from morgan stanley. I very much doubt if they have any of the orginal paperwork on these. so if i do hear from them they would only send t&c, would i then wait till they pass debt over to a DCAicon, and then send them a cca request.

    thanks for your help

    have just read about CPR 31, it seems so complicated if i did that it would assume i would take it to court, if they havent got any agreements anyway what would be the benefit ,could they still sell the debt on, and if so I would still have to deal with a DCA. I'm confussed.


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    Hi LG,

    The CPR route looks complicated but amounts really to 2 letters. However, if you start it, you have to be prepared to take the matter on to court.

    The CCA requests will produce only T&C's but this doesn't mean BC have no agreements. If BC pass the debt on to Mercers, there's no point in CCA'ing them as they would refer it back to BC anyway.

    There are several letters you can send BC and Mercers saying the a/c is in dispute and why, but both BC and M's will largely ignore your contentions and carrying on demanding. Mercers are BC in-house DCAicon and, if they fail to collect, the debt may be passed on to others.

    Another way to deal with this is wait till the reply comes back from the SARicon. Even though you asked for the Credit Agreement for each a/c, you'll not receive it. You can then complain to the Information Commissioners Office and ask them to make BC supply the Agreement.

    Or you can file at court seeking an order for the doc'ts to be produced - this is different to the CPR route. See here:-

    Data Protection Act - Non-Compliance - Template Letters
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.c o.uk...n-act-non.html
    Data Protection Act Non-Compliance - Particulars of claim
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...n-act-non.html

    Basically there are 3 options but using the ICO is the only one that doesn't involve court proceedings. However, it will take months to see if you get a result.

    If you reclaim penalty charges on the a/c's, will that help to bring the a/c's down to a manageable amount.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: LG29 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi slick,
    Thanks for that, today i recieved the replies to the cca requests, which was just t&c
    think i will wait and see if i get reply to SARicon then decide what to do next.


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    Default Re: LG29 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi,
    I had to send them a reminder about a week ago regarding the SARicon request, they have now replied so i think i have all the information that they have, but still no agreements, and nothing with signatures on, just a lot of printed data with a lot of different codes on, we have also had a letter from mercers requesting payment.

    Need advice on what to do next please.


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    Default Re: LG29 -v- Barclaycard

    Go through what they've sent to identify all penalty charges, ie late pay't fees, over-limit fees.

    Enter these on a site spreadsheet and send off with this reclaim letter - http://www.consumerforums.com/resour...-bookworm.html

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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