Thread: UK Parking Patrol Office - £60 fine

Hi, Thanks for letting me join this wonderful forum. I have read through some other threads and the FAQs about private companies issuing "invoices" etc...

Ok. Let me set the scene.I went to play football with my friends. We had hired a pitch out. The facility we were using has its own car park. This car park is NOWHERE near big enough to hold all the people that use the facility. The car park must hold 20 cars when up to 30 people use the car park and this is hardly peak times. I have only ever attended this facility once before and I have found a space in the car park.

Anyway there is a road leading up to it so i decided to park along there. The road has newly built houses along it and it still has a marketing suite where people would go in to arrange viewings etc... i expect that it is these people that own the road. The road doesn't have double yellows or anything. Just a couple of signs which are only viewable from certain areas... I was gone a couple of hours and then i come back to receive a £60 fine from the UK parking patrol office telling me that if i dont pay within 14 days then it will increase to £90. Ok fair enough i shouldn't have been parking there but i wasn't parked inconsiderately, obstructing vehicles or property access. There was nowhere else to park. 3 of my friends also had fines for parking on the road. It seems to me as a money making scheme as they know the official car park is too small.

Any advice on what i should do. Shall I ignore the ticket until they contact me through the post?

Also I am worried that they sports facility may provide CCTV imaging to the company to prove i was the driver although im not sure there is CCTV. Do i still have a chance should i be proven to be the driver?

Many thanks

even if they prove you were the driver they will still have no way to enforce this on so many levels.

More PPC nonsense. Feel free to ignore. Be prepared for some letters from UK Parking Patrol and thier DCA (approx 3-4 in total) however. They willl give up after that

Lol Al - do you have that as a cut and paste???

I am actually finding this really funny. It is like you wind them up they make empty threats and just have to go away. Maybe this is because i used to bait and tease 419 [problem]mers I can understand why some people would relish the opportunity to go to court with them. Is there any way i can have some fun with it, for example sending them a bill for the "damage the ticket caused to my car"

also what about writing the letter in crayon or a different language?

Any ideas would be appreciated

OK so i check the area today to gather evidence. Looks like they went absolutely overboard with the signage. I couldn't see any signage from where i was parked. The signs were all the way up and down the road. I didn't see all of these on the way there though as it was very dark.

The road went onto a new build housing estate. Does this count as private land even though it has a street name and houses on the road?

Are they allowed to ticket me even if there is no markings on the road such as parking bays, yellow lines and it is not clear as to where the signs signify the start and end of the restrictions?

The sign says "contractual notice. Anyone who chooses to park here agrees to pay a £60 fine if parked without a permit" Does this mean i agreed to enter a contract with them?

Am i still safe to ignore these shy teds?

YOu need to find out who maintains the road.

If the road is maintained at the public expense then it is public highway and therefore they are not entitled to "fine" you anything.

If , as I suspect this is still "private land" then their sineage means very little. They would still have to prove that you were the driver and even if they were able to prove that then the RUTCC would screw them up as well.

Continue to ignore these begging letters

the RUTCC is the Regulations of Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts.

Basically where there is a contract which is not negotiated on an individual basis and contains a term which is inordinately biased against the consumer, the EU court would deem that contract unenforceable.

The chances of them taking you to court are very very very very very very slim.

also if they took you to court - it would be a small claim - so their costs (with the exception of the issuing fee) are not recoverable

Originally Posted by crem

If the sign specifically states "£60 FINE" then you can be confident they will take this nowhere near a court. As private company cannot fine you, therefore it would be reasonable for you to have ignored the notice. i.e. as it cannot be valid, why would you take any notice of it?

Thanks for your help. It is my mistake. It doesn't say FINE it actually says charge. The signage is here in this image.

It also suggests that the charge applies to and is addressing "permit holders only" It also suggests that you need permission to park. As it doesn't say from who I need permission from, I took it upon myself to solve the situation and I settled on asking myself for permission to park there. I was very lucky that I accepted...

Also, the cheeky bar stewards have the nerve to call the invoice a pcn. Look what their "problem park kit contains"

• 5 large Warning To Driver signs.
• 20 polite warning stickers.
• 25 PCN parking tickets.
• 15 parking permits.
• Full, 7-day support from our enforcement office.
• £10 compensation for each paid parking charge paid back to you each month
• Operating guide
• Full installation instructions

The actual "ticket" is identical to this one which im sure u agree fools you into thinking it is actually a PCN. This is an offense is it not? http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...x/envelope.jpg


honestly! how can they go about trading calling their "tickets" "PCN's". I am going to submit a complaint to the BPA via this address. aos@britishparking.co.uk I advise that anybody else who can be bothered complaining do so. this way if the BPA recieve enough complaints they will investigate and review this members status