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    Default Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Hi,

    I recently received an alleged CCA from Cabot Finance (for an Eggicon credit card) which after extensive research I believe is unenforceable. I intend to draft a letter to respond as such, but would really appreaciate any pointers, or maybe a link to a similar letter/template that I could make use of.

    Here is a summary of the points I would like to get accross:
    • CCA is not enforceable as per the reasons highlighted in this thread.
    • Cabot delivered the CCA and relating documenation after the 12+2 deadline (not sure what material effect this has on anything).
    • The letter of assignment from Egg (and Cabot in fact) is clearly not a copy of a genuine letter sent to me at the alleged time. (I never received any letter of assignment from anyone and these are clearly mail merge templates).
    Also, I have some other queries that I would really appreciate some advice on.

    Cabot have placed a default on my credit file. The default is dated 2006, but they claim to have purchased the alleged debt in 2008. Does this have any implications? I am very keen to have the default removed (my primary goal).

    I have not sent an S.A.R. to either firm as of yet.

    Any help or advice greatly appreciated.

    Cheers.

    M


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Quote Originally Posted by macdog View Post
    I recently received an alleged CCA from Cabot Finance (for an Eggicon credit card) which after extensive research I believe is unenforceable.
    If signed [EDIT:] after BEFORE Jan 2007, that would appear to be the case if it uses the term 'approved limit' rather than 'credit limit'


    Quote Originally Posted by macdog View Post
    I intend to draft a letter to respond as such, but would really appreaciate any pointers, or maybe a link to a similar letter/template that I could make use of.
    I wrote a similar letter, though you would have to remove the parts about payment protectioin insurance (unless they are relevant):
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post1957368

    Quote Originally Posted by macdog View Post
    Here is a summary of the points I would like to get accross:
    • CCA is not enforceable as per the reasons highlighted in this thread.
    • Cabot delivered the CCA and relating documenation after the 12+2 deadline (not sure what material effect this has on anything).
    • The letter of assignment from Egg (and Cabot in fact) is clearly not a copy of a genuine letter sent to me at the alleged time. (I never received any letter of assignment from anyone and these are clearly mail merge templates).
    Point 1 - covered in my letter
    Point 2 - not relevant going forward if it has now been supplied
    Point 3 - something that could win it for you if you were taken to court - BUT presumably they might later be able to produce a proper copy.[/quote]

    Quote Originally Posted by macdog View Post
    Also, I have some other queries that I would really appreciate some advice on.

    Cabot have placed a default on my credit file. The default is dated 2006, but they claim to have purchased the alleged debt in 2008. Does this have any implications? I am very keen to have the default removed (my primary goal).
    Again, something that could win it for you in court if they couldn't prove ownership of the debt - but, again, not if they managed to sort out their story and prove the case.

    Have you been defaulted twice on the same debt (once by Egg, once by Cabot)? If so, the second default might be challengeable (there is a guide to this), otherwise not so easy as it is, after all, a reflection of the history on the account - which is why they are so hard to get removed.

    Quote Originally Posted by macdog View Post
    I have not sent an S.A.R. to either firm as of yet.

    Any help or advice greatly appreciated.
    Normally worth doing - sometimes you don't know what it's going to tell you until you do it. Egg send a very interesting inch thick pack - a bargain for only £10!


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Hi Militant,

    Thanks for taking the time with your detailed response.

    I think I will largely progress as you have advised (despute CCA and an SARicon).

    Just a couple of questions:

    If signed after Jan 2007
    The agreement was signed by them in late 2003, me early 2004. What bearing does this have on this case?

    might later be able to produce a proper copy
    Would an S.A.R. not bring any "proper copy"to the surface?

    Thanks again.

    M


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Oh sorry, and I forgot, only Cabot seem to have placed a default on my file. Although from what I have read these defaults seem to magically appear and dissappear from time to time.

    I havent seen (or so far request) a copy of the DN in this regard either.


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Difference between pre and post 2007 enforceability legality:
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...nts-guide.html

    If you manage to get the agreement via a SARicon, you have done well. We are constantly trying to find new ways to get hold of it. E.g:-
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...uldnt-use.html

    I think defaults are more likely to magically appear than magically disappear.


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Thanks Militant, but thats my point I think.

    It seems that it is better if the agreement was signed pre-2007. Your first reply read that post-2007 agreements could argue this point.

    Am I confused or was that just a typoicon?


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    Apologies - it was a typoicon, and I have edited the orignal post to avoid confusion from somebody else reading it later.


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    Default Re: Help drafting a response to Egg CCA

    ah cool. thanks. all makes sense now



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