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    Default OFT Win

    The OFT have basically won. The Banks are refused leave to appeal. The banks now have to ask the House of Lords for leave to appeal.

    county courticon claims to remain stayed, but OFT are now cleared to publish their findings on the charges, their initial findings are that they are unfair!

    I'm sure CAGicon will be putting out a full update later.


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    BBC NEWS | Business | Bank charges appeal is thrown out


    Looks like they are not allowed to appeal in the house of lords

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    They have the right to ask the Lords for leave to appeal.

    It's almost certain in my mind that they will seek leave.


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    Default Re: OFT Win

    when i read this a big smile appeared on my face....

    lol at the banks they had this coming to them for so long..

    and gratz to the OFT to sticking to the cause and seeing this threw


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    Only downside is that the banks will likely introduce charges for having a current account to make up for the loss in profits.

    Though it will be a very brave bank to introduce them in the current climate, with those who can change bank likely to change to an institution that doesnt have a monthly fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enron View Post
    Only downside is that the banks will likely introduce charges for having a current account to make up for the loss in profits.

    Though it will be a very brave bank to introduce them in the current climate, with those who can change bank likely to change to an institution that doesnt have a monthly fee.
    On a similar note, an interesting feature in the Telegraph today about the current climate in banking;
    How banks are pretty desperate to get new customers, how to compare the various providers, the services, and the pluses and minuses of the various accounts suited to your own needs.

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    But banks are desperate for your custom at the moment, and some are offering good incentives to lure you into their current accounts – knowing that once you are hooked, you could be with them for life. Both First Direct and Alliance & Leicester will pay you £100 if you switch to specific current accounts, while Halifaxicon offers to pay you £5 a month. But how can you tell whether these are the right accounts for you?

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    I'm confused by this as the link you highlight clearly suggests the banks do intend to seek leave to appeal to the House of Lords.

    Can you explain?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred_Funk View Post
    Alphageek

    I'm confused by this as the link you highlight clearly suggests the banks do intend to seek leave to appeal to the House of Lords.

    Can you explain?!

    Fred_Funk
    The article has changed since it was first posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dolly View Post
    The article has changed since it was first posted.
    Yes, what Dolly said.

    They obviously thought about doing the right think and then came to their senses


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    Default Re: OFT Win

    Ive read many threads but am still unclear as to the next step. my claim was stayed probably a year ago. Is it still a waiting game until the banks appeal or the Fsa decide how much the charges actually cost the banks. will the courts now lift the stays.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buby x View Post
    Ive read many threads but am still unclear as to the next step. my claim was stayed probably a year ago. Is it still a waiting game until the banks appeal or the Fsa decide how much the charges actually cost the banks. will the courts now lift the stays.
    Basically it is still a waiting game. The stays will not be lifted yet.


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    Hi all. What get's me is the paragraph on that BBA report that says:

    There is limited guidance from case law on whether and how the UTCCRs apply in these circumstances.
    The Banks continue to believe that the UTCCRs do not apply to these types of charges, where the customer is using and paying for a service that is being offered.

    So how come, and there are probably thousands more people same as me, I wasn't allowed an overdrafticon on the type of account I had, so how were they providing a service? They just charged me every time for going over big fat zero, and direct debits of course.

    This has been my argument all along, and my charges go into thousands.

    I had to sell my house (luckily I sold in 2 weeks), because of the banks. I am in a better position now but that's not quite the point as you guys all know.

    When will they give in?

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    Hi kitten, the next step is, helpfully, the HoL refusing them the right to appeal the appeal court's decision. Will be about 12 weeks at most for that decision.


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    Hi alphageek,

    I hope for others it is resolved quickly, although it seems it will drag on. I'm ok now, (still waiting like you though) but I know many of my friends on here are still suffering badly while waiting.

    Just makes you wonder how many more game's they'll play and how many more lives they'll ruin first.

    Good luck all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo111 View Post
    Basically it is still a waiting game. The stays will not be lifted yet.
    What I want to know is will they contact each customer individually that have had their cases stayed?? I really only check up on this once every month or so, after 2 years of this i am now less enthusiastic about getting back my money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by choco View Post
    What I want to know is will they contact each customer individually that have had their cases stayed?? I really only check up on this once every month or so, after 2 years of this i am now less enthusiastic about getting back my money!
    The courts or the banks?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fzrkitten View Post
    The Banks continue to believe that the UTCCRs do not apply to these types of charges, where the customer is using and paying for a service that is being offered.
    Naughty naughty. The courts found that they weren't offering a service. Granted, they didn't find they were a penalty either, but the judgment also clearly stated that they were not a service.

    The BBA, lying? Surely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourbank View Post
    The courts or the banks?
    The courts, I guess...?



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