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    Default National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Hi,

    I have been looking at the forum on here and thought I would post this as I believe I do not have to pay the Fixed Penalty Notice.

    I parked in a well known local shopping centre carpark, I purchased a pay and display ticket, and on return to my car, had been issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice ticket from National Clamps. This is because I parked in error in a Parent & Child space.........I did not realise this was the case and feel that the ticket cost(£80) is somewhat extortionate and unfair...

    I have attached the ticket for anyone to have a look at.......

    Does anyone agree?..........
    I was going to write to them initially explaining this, but after reading the forum on here I think admitting to anything may onyl "drop" myself in it. Would anyone suggest I just ignore this as they are a private company.

    Any help much appreciated.



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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    It's not a Fixed Penalty Notice, as it has not been issued by the Police (irrespective of what might be written on the invoice).

    You are quite right in ignoring it, however.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Send a copy to local Trading Standards.

    Do not pay and do not contact them.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    It spouts absolute tosh and is not even written in English

    Ignore it (and any subsequent letters) completely.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    The guys here are right! They are claiming liquidated damages - how on earth have you cost them or the landowner £80 quid. It's a load of nonsense. Also, the wording is hilarious - reads like something a bad lawyer would right when he was p****d. If you really want to give away £80 throw it in Oxfam's direction, at leat you will have satisfaction that it is going to those less fortunate rather than a profit munching business.

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Thanks for all your comments, I will do nothing as you all suggested...
    thanks so much for your help


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    I loved the bit where your parking caused distressicon not only to the landowner but to the parking company.

    It is unlikely that even know how to take you court, let alone do it. You are 100% safe to ignore it.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Yes, I suspect that the landowner is so distressed that he's been crying ever since lol Mind you, with a name like National Clamps you were lucky that it was not an old Chicago boot otherwise you would have had to pay angle grinding costs as well. Just disregard, this one wont go anywhere near court.

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    eCar Insurance overpayment - £325
    Settled in full - 15/09/08
    NatWest Student A/C bank charges - £260
    Settled under hardship scheme - 08/06/09
    Natwest Business A/C bank charges - £60
    Settled in full as GOGW - 20/04/09
    Santander Consumer Finance late payment fees - £60
    Part settled for £48 - 01/03/08
    Peugeot Finance late payment fees - £50
    Settled in full before county court hearing - 01/09/09
    Peugeot Finance overpayment of £247
    Settled in full - 01/12/08
    Valley Leisure - complaint about collections agent
    £160 part refund of gym membership in compensation - 01/02/09
    HFC Bank - complaint about payment deducted from my account on wrong date
    GOGW £10 - 01/05/09

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Failure to address this situation can only end with a registered debt collectionicon agent.
    I've tried 3 times to understand what this means, it's English but the words just don't have any meaning.

    I think they're trying to say if you do nothing, there's nothing they can do apart from ask you for the money again: it ends there.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Yes, I see it at uni a lot - the classic example of people using words they don't understand. I support your opinion Zamzara. I believe they are saying if you don't cough up we will pass it to the desk across the office who will write to you under a different trading name.

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    eCar Insurance overpayment - £325
    Settled in full - 15/09/08
    NatWest Student A/C bank charges - £260
    Settled under hardship scheme - 08/06/09
    Natwest Business A/C bank charges - £60
    Settled in full as GOGW - 20/04/09
    Santander Consumer Finance late payment fees - £60
    Part settled for £48 - 01/03/08
    Peugeot Finance late payment fees - £50
    Settled in full before county court hearing - 01/09/09
    Peugeot Finance overpayment of £247
    Settled in full - 01/12/08
    Valley Leisure - complaint about collections agent
    £160 part refund of gym membership in compensation - 01/02/09
    HFC Bank - complaint about payment deducted from my account on wrong date
    GOGW £10 - 01/05/09

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Rubbish from start to finish. FPN-its not from the Police. distressicon? Dont get me started on that bit....

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    Zamzara-same here,- what utter nonsense from NC.
    Please do report this however

    If you believe that this post has helped in any way please click on the star to the left

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Reminds me of that episode of Friends where Joey used a Thesaurus on every word in a letter to make him sound 'smart'!


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    well, i just ignored the 1st ticket...and now received this letter, what do you think? should i still ignore? it does worry me a tad ...

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Ignore it for the same reasons that you ignored the first invoice.

    "By law, this fee can only be charged after 28 days has lapsed from the date of issue . . ." Say what?

    "bailiffsicon Fees Per Visit £250.00" Again - Say what?


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Hello there,

    I have reviewed the correspondence you have posted and can advise you that you must absolutely carry on ignoring it. I would like to specifically draw your attention to the inclusion of balliffs fees in the invoice - this is complete and utter tosh. A balliff would only become involved if National Clamps took you to court and won (which is very unlikely in itself) and then you refused to pay after the terms had expired (usually 28 days). Also for your information, the DVLA charge £2.50 for the release of your information so £40 is madness.

    If this letter was addressed to me I would be 110% confident in disregarding. That said please keep it safe.

    All the best

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    eCar Insurance overpayment - £325
    Settled in full - 15/09/08
    NatWest Student A/C bank charges - £260
    Settled under hardship scheme - 08/06/09
    Natwest Business A/C bank charges - £60
    Settled in full as GOGW - 20/04/09
    Santander Consumer Finance late payment fees - £60
    Part settled for £48 - 01/03/08
    Peugeot Finance late payment fees - £50
    Settled in full before county court hearing - 01/09/09
    Peugeot Finance overpayment of £247
    Settled in full - 01/12/08
    Valley Leisure - complaint about collections agent
    £160 part refund of gym membership in compensation - 01/02/09
    HFC Bank - complaint about payment deducted from my account on wrong date
    GOGW £10 - 01/05/09

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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    I'd reply telling them that when they stated they had issued you with a FPN it caused you distressicon and you are now entitled to liquidated damages from them of £160, so if they send you £80 you are even

    Mossy


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Its rubbish and designed to scare. keep collecting their letters. cross your fingers that they do issue court papers so you can have a judge tear them a new one.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Hello All again, I received this yesterday, this is now the 3rd letter from them.. its is similiar to the 2nd one.

    Any views on this, I live with my Dad and he is getting a bit worried now that the bailifficon's are going to knock !!

    many thanks for all your comments


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TETSUO View Post
    Hello All again, I received this yesterday, this is now the 3rd letter from them.. its is similiar to the 2nd one.

    Any views on this, I live with my Dad and he is getting a bit worried now that the bailifficon's are going to knock !!
    Keep on ignoring them.

    bailiffsicon would only ever come calling if, and this is a very big if, they issued court proceedings against you, and then won in front of a judge, and then you refused, or were unable, to pay. Three things, in other words, that are unlikely to happen.

    What might happen is that the tone of the letters will change, or they might appear to be coming from a debt collectionicon agency (most likely another desk in the National Clamps office), saying things such as "credit score" and "CCJ".

    You should ignore those too.

    The only time you need to show even a tiny bit of concern is if you receive correctly stamped court papers, detailing a claim against you. And then everyone here would be all over it like clampers on a hearse.


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    Default Re: National Clamps- FPN received !!!

    "We now find ourselves"

    What? They don't enjoy self-determination, and their actions are dictated by some ethereal force?

    "Selling this debt to licensed bailiffsicon"

    Who can't seek any payment without a court order.

    "By law, you have 7 days to make your payment."

    I wonder which law that would be then?

    "National Clamps is NOT responsible for the actions of their subcontractors."

    On the contrary, I would suggest that they have an agency relationship, and at least share responsibility.



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