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    I'm following letter template route advising CEL to take matter up with driver and not registered keeper but have had their response to my first letter which questions the whole idea about resisting payment!
    Their response makes reference to a judgement taken in 1998 Combined Parking Solutions v Stephen James Thomas) where the Judge ruled that "on the balance of probabilities, the Registered Keeper was the driver and even if this was not the case - he took a dim view of the Registered Keepr's attitude for not providing the driver's details to enable the matter to be resolved at the earliest opportunity".
    They continue to ask for payment and also threaten county courticon action with added costs and interesticon and fees to the claim should i fail to pay.
    Is there any specific response suitable to counter this?
    Thanks,
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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    You've received their standard template letter full of irrelevant rubbish.

    There's no purpose being drawn into a dialogue with them. They're not going to stop sending you junkmail even if you send them the best legal letter in the world.

    You need to ignore them from now on.

    Of course they will threaten you with court and escalating costs. This is a mail [problem] and the whole point of them sending letters is to scare you into paying.

    Chances of court are 0.1%

    Ignore these clowns and get on with your life.


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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    If they choose to go to court, which is very unlikely, you can follow the unfair terms route.

    Do not be afraid of their antics.


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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    Standard rubbish from 'planet Perky'. Ignore but keep all their letters in a nice collection so you can complain to TS.


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    Their response makes reference to a judgement taken in 1998 Combined Parking Solutions v Stephen James Thomas
    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this judgement in 2008 and not 1998.


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    I'm sure it was 98

    09/07/09 Business Studies BA(Hons) 2:1

    eCar Insurance overpayment - £325
    Settled in full - 15/09/08
    NatWest Student A/C bank charges - £260
    Settled under hardship scheme - 08/06/09
    Natwest Business A/C bank charges - £60
    Settled in full as GOGW - 20/04/09
    Santander Consumer Finance late payment fees - £60
    Part settled for £48 - 01/03/08
    Peugeot Finance late payment fees - £50
    Settled in full before county court hearing - 01/09/09
    Peugeot Finance overpayment of £247
    Settled in full - 01/12/08
    Valley Leisure - complaint about collections agent
    £160 part refund of gym membership in compensation - 01/02/09
    HFC Bank - complaint about payment deducted from my account on wrong date
    GOGW £10 - 01/05/09

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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    They probably haven't discovered copy and paste and so had to type it out themselves.

    Probably took the chimps at least a couple of hours.


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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    Quote Originally Posted by the_freedom_trail View Post
    I'm sure it was 98

    It was actually October 2008

    Rochdale News | Community News | Judge enforces parking penalty in landmark case - Rochdale Online


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    My Bad. Out of interesticon, was it the weakness in the defence that resulted in the judgement?

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    09/07/09 Business Studies BA(Hons) 2:1

    eCar Insurance overpayment - £325
    Settled in full - 15/09/08
    NatWest Student A/C bank charges - £260
    Settled under hardship scheme - 08/06/09
    Natwest Business A/C bank charges - £60
    Settled in full as GOGW - 20/04/09
    Santander Consumer Finance late payment fees - £60
    Part settled for £48 - 01/03/08
    Peugeot Finance late payment fees - £50
    Settled in full before county court hearing - 01/09/09
    Peugeot Finance overpayment of £247
    Settled in full - 01/12/08
    Valley Leisure - complaint about collections agent
    £160 part refund of gym membership in compensation - 01/02/09
    HFC Bank - complaint about payment deducted from my account on wrong date
    GOGW £10 - 01/05/09

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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    We don't know what the defence was.

    As it's a small claims judgement (not a 'landmark case'), it cannot set precedent. Hence why PPCs have continued to lose prior and since.

    Of course, we're only talking about a handful of cases a year. There's no money in taking people to court for £60 / £100. This was merely an ego trip for Michael Perkins.


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    Thanks to all replies - i'm certainly going to hold firm - i just can't decide if i should respond to their current or any future letters.
    Their letter does indeed state 1998 as the date of trial but Rochdale news shows it to be 2008!


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    Default Re: civil enforcement ltd

    you think they can type ? ?



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