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    Hi guys hope you can shed some light on this. My wife gained a parking ticketicon from a private contractor

    My wife today parked in a street. This street is part of a complex run of streets that provide parking bays for the residents of the town houses.
    Now there are 2 red signs on the way into the street speaking of contactual agreements and such.

    1. She did not park in a bay but on a the road
    2. They have ticked unathorised parking, no displayed permit, obstructive parking.
    3. They have not recorded the time of the offense.
    4. I am the registered keeper not her.
    5. There are no yellow lines or signs along the street and only 3 signs are visable 2 on the entrance and 1 right down at the bottom of the street.

    Ive read the sticky about not responding till they do but im worried that this will end up in court or something and lots of hassles

    What do you think please ?

    The name of the company is Norhtern parking solutions.


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    Default Re: parking fine

    Why are you worried.

    Keep the paperwork and ignore all the threats.

    Or pay them


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    Default Re: parking fine

    Well its like this i dont want to pay em obviously but im not sure if i fight them am going to get canned for loads more ?


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    Default Re: parking fine

    First of all, this is not a fine, but an unenforceable invoice.
    A PPC has no power to issue a fine, only the courts issue fines.
    A PPC has no power to demand information from you as to who, what, why and when.
    The advice is;
    Do not pay,
    Do not contact
    Do not post anything in any forum which will help identify any personal details from your post.
    From now on remember that;
    Careless talk can cost ££££'s



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    thanks I would not ever give any details about myself or my car or the address. But thanks for the reminder of that.
    So ignore.
    When they write follow the templates as a guide.

    Has anyone actually ended up in court for this in these forumns ?


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    Default Re: parking fine

    Quote Originally Posted by denon View Post
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    So ignore.
    When they write follow the templates as a guide.
    Your first line is right - ignore.

    Your second line should be amended to read; "when they write, ignore them some more"


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    The use of the term 'street' and lack of info as to who the issuing entity is would worry me until it is known. There may be private parking bays that are enforced by contractors, but if the council has not given up its claim to the highway (street), then it may NOT be a private parking ticketicon. DO NOT IGNORE until you have discovered what it is you have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buzby View Post
    The use of the term 'street' and lack of info as to who the issuing entity is would worry me until it is known. There may be private parking bays that are enforced by contractors, but if the council has not given up its claim to the highway (street), then it may NOT be a private parking ticketicon. DO NOT IGNORE until you have discovered what it is you have.
    Good advise Buzby, but as the OP stated that it's Northern Parking Solutions, I'd asume it was safe to ignore!


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    Capital ONE : Issued Court papers, refund of £635.38

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    VIRGIN MEDIA : Request of charges, LBA sent

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    There would be a big difference if it was a council ticket but as its an invoice from a PPC then the general advice would be to ignore.
    What will happen if you ignore is that NPS will send you a further letter then possibly pass it to a DCAicon who will send another letter or two and then give up. These letters will threaten all sorts of unfounded nonsense such as baliffs etc and will be probably be marked 'final' then 'final,final'...... It is your choice to correspond with them however, but most people ignore as most PPCs will think that you will be wavering into paying and pester you even more.
    It would also be highly unlikely that if you should choose to appeal that you would win as almost all are rejected as PPC's appeals processess are done 'in house' so only one outcome! Hope thats helped a bit and best wishes

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    Default Re: parking fine

    'Council' tickets can (and are) also issued by private contractors - I believe in Edinburgh their tickets are (or were) issued by NCP, so before a cursory glance commits a ticket to the bin, it is often worthwhile doing a bit more research.

    I'm unaware of PPC tickets having any point in a 'street' especially one designated as part of the public highway.


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    Update:

    The first 6 m of the estate are adopted by the council after this it is private land.
    The signs are at the entrance to the streets and are actually located adjacent to the adopted road and not in the estate.

    Trading standars have said that they have put the signs up and the only way it will be resolved is by a jude in court.

    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by denon View Post
    Update:

    The first 6 m of the estate are adopted by the council after this it is private land.
    The signs are at the entrance to the streets and are actually located adjacent to the adopted road and not in the estate.

    Trading standars have said that they have put the signs up and the only way it will be resolved is by a jude in court.

    Thanks
    So, are you paying them?

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    Lloyds TSB : SAR request taken all the way to Court, Damages awarded.

    Lloyds TSB PPI : FOS found in my favour, awaiting settlement figure.

    Capital ONE : Issued Court papers, refund of £635.38

    Barclaycard
    : Refund of charges £456.16

    VIRGIN MEDIA : Request of charges, LBA sent

    LLoyds TSB : Refund of charges sent

    Littlewoods/NDR/Moorcroft : You have no idea

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    Default Re: parking fine

    well im going to do what you guys said and ignore em. If i feel like replying use the templates and see where it goes.


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    Street name signs can be put at the entrance to any road, private or already adopted - On private roads this is normally done anyway by the developer wether the road is going to be adopted by the Council or not. In other words the presence of street name signs doesn't denote wether a road is adopted or private .
    Take the advice on here as I did, Do not pay, ignore anything they send you and tell your wife to spend the money on something nice instead.


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    Default Re: parking fine

    i mean entering into a contract warning signs not street signs


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    Default Re: parking fine

    Quote Originally Posted by denon View Post
    i mean entering into a contract warning signs not street signs
    Sorry, got the wrong end of the stick.

    Anyway, still don't pay. Check with trading standard on the connection with them & the PPC. I worked for a local Authority & most of the time they go ahead with schemes without looking into the legal aspect & then get tripped up later on.



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