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    Default Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    On 11th February 2009 Natwesticon Bank sackedicon me for Gross Misconduct with regards to the role I have played within the Bank Charges Campaign. I have admitted it and NatWest Bank have acted correctly in the action they have taken.

    I would like to thank the adminicon and team members of all forums who protected my identity and preserved my role within the campaign since I began in June 2006.

    As I am still dealing with issues arising from my dismissal I am not going to post on the NatWest/RBSicon forums as they may be covered by my confidentiality agreement with the bank. I am not prepared to answer any questions on that topic.

    I hope I have helped people and I hope that I have shown that bank workers are not all heartless. I still believe in the employees of banks who do a fantastic job and I hope that my posts have shown that. I would ask that those who know my real identity to allow me the time to sort out the upheaval that is going on as a result of losing my job.

    My last comment is directed at my former employer and has been a signatureicon of mine from when I came into the bank charges campaign.
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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    Of course I don't fully understand the extent of your activities but from what I have seen I wouldn't have described your involvement with the bank charges campaign as gross misconduct. Of course it would be contrary to the interests of the National Westminster Bankicon and other banks because they want to profit from bank charges even though they are are unfair and unlawful.

    I'm sure there must be a banking union. I suppose they are probably in the pockets of the management but you should go and see them.

    I would look very carefully at possible courses of action here because it could be that your dismissalicon has been unfair.

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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    I was sackedicon for gross misconduct which I admitted to. I am not able to go into more details than that.
    I made sure the process was correctly followed and took advice from ACAS as I was never unionised in the bank.


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    Is this their worst decission since buying AMRO?

    You are the type of person who bank customers want to see in banking.

    It is their loss and will be another bank's gain if they have the forsight to offer you a job.

    PS I hear there's an opening at FSA for somebody with Banking expierience!

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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    Well I suppose that the bank knows a lot about misconduct

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    I was sackedicon for gross misconduct which I admitted to.
    I happen to know that you felt morally committed to what you were doing and therefore it was a matter of conscience.

    I hear what you say that you have admitted to it but certain people I have spoken to are asking the question whether or not there is some pressure upon you to post about this in the way that you are doing.


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    BF, I thought it courteous of me to post the same message that is on 5 other forums rather than you hear it secondhand as this was after all the first site I registered for in June 2006.
    I do wish you would spell out exactly what you mean rather than leaving comments in the air because then I would not feel that I am running uphill. Other forums where the message has been posted have users saying thank you and good luck. I guess I haven't been around here recently and maybe I do not know or am unable to gage the tone of CAGicon anymore.
    I was dismissedicon yesterday almost 24 hours to the exact minute. Today is DAY 1. And I have no idea what is in store for me next. It won't be in financial services though. As I said thank you BF and the team. It is very early days still and I simply want to sort out the most important things such as getting new employment. That is a priority. Today was a day I set asideicon to inform users that I won't defend RBSicon Group anymore and that my opinions are not formed or based on who I work for as I do not work for them anymore. The statement was written by me prior to being dismissed but after I knew that it was an inevitable event.


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank To replace James Crosby at FSA?

    THANK YOU NATTIE!

    You made a significant difference to this site and added an impartial informed view from "the other end of the telescope" which often helped bring people down to the reality of the uphill struggle they had with reclaiming these charges.
    In my opinion you have been sackedicon for the crime of offering best financial advice to customers. The fact that your bank “doesn’t like it up em” pours water on their current advertising campaign pretending to offer completely free independent (and best?) advice to customersin branches.



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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank To replace James Crosby at FSA?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPROUTY View Post
    The fact that your bank “doesn’t like it up em” pours water on their current advertising campaign pretending to offer completely free independent (and best?) advice to customersin branches.
    Funny you should say that:

    Natwest staff encourage bank charge refunds


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    I hope you will now become as dangerous an enemy as you were loyal as an employee.


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    I have never read anything that you have posted that could be construed as gross misconduct. I have only just found this thread and am truly sorry that it has come to this.

    I am sure you have the tenacity to sort out a future career and think you are well out of what can only be described as a sinking ship.

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    I'm truly sorry to hear about this Nattie. You may post on 5 forums now, but I know you were with CAGicon almost from the start and have made valuable contributions. I'm so sorry it's come to this.

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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    I would like to join the others in saying how sorry I am that this has happened. I have been a Natwesticon customer for over 30 years and was always reasonably happy with them - until joining CAGicon You helped me in my initial campaign against NatWest and I am very grateful for the help and what I learned from you.

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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    Thank you guys who knew my identity and kept that secret.
    For those who think it is a sad day for me, it isn't. Freedom is a strange thing, being able to give a name to a face. It is testament to the fact that the name I am known as on the forums, I will always be known as. Many people in the bank charges forums still call me Nattie and will always call me Nattie. It will take some time for me to debankify myself and to sort out the final pieces from RBSicon Group, like salary, etc,etc,.
    I was proud to work for RBS Group and I am happy not to be working for them. And positive about my future(not going to say "the future's bright, the future's orangeicon!!).


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    Sad news, Nattie.
    During the time that you've been involved with the forums, whatever name you were using at the time, you've always been very helpful and informative and you were instrumental in a lot of people regaining control of their lives.
    On their behalf let me say a heartfelt thank you.
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    Dear Nattie -- I remember you helped me at the beginning too - for which I was (and still am) most grateful!

    I think it's dreadful the way you've been treat - especially given their new tv campaign -- but then we all know that they all work more like the "introductory biscuit" advert that the Nationwideicon put out!!

    I wish you all the very best for the future whatever you decide to do x

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    Well Nattie, I'm stunned to see the news, but am glad you're also seeing it as a positive. I can only echo Noomill's words of "I hope you will now become as dangerous an enemy as you were loyal as an employee". Thanks for all your help on all the forums - hope you get the upheaval sorted out and continue onwards & upwards

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    Nattie this is very sad that you lost your job. I hope you soon find something to do that you will enjoy doing.

    Goodluck and thank you for your help across the various forums in the past.

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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    good luck Nattie I wish you well for the future


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    Default Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct

    Really sad to hear this, YB.

    Think I've mentioned before my bro-in-law is ex Natwesticon manager, they forced him to work ridiculous hours and sackedicon him when he had a nervous Breakdownicon, so I've never been keen on NatWest as an employer. Im sure you didnt deserve to lose your job - neither did my bro-in-law, but hey ho, banks cant always see that when things dont go their way, can they?

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