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Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
On 11th February 2009 Natwest Bank sacked me for Gross Misconduct with regards to the role I have played within the Bank Charges Campaign. I have admitted it and NatWest Bank have acted correctly in the action they have taken.
I would like to thank the admin and team members of all forums who protected my identity and preserved my role within the campaign since I began in June 2006.
As I am still dealing with issues arising from my dismissal I am not going to post on the NatWest/RBS forums as they may be covered by my confidentiality agreement with the bank. I am not prepared to answer any questions on that topic.
I hope I have helped people and I hope that I have shown that bank workers are not all heartless. I still believe in the employees of banks who do a fantastic job and I hope that my posts have shown that. I would ask that those who know my real identity to allow me the time to sort out the upheaval that is going on as a result of losing my job.
My last comment is directed at my former employer and has been a signature of mine from when I came into the bank charges campaign.
In the words of World War one poet, Wilfred Owen; “I am the enemy you killed, my friend.”
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Of course I don't fully understand the extent of your activities but from what I have seen I wouldn't have described your involvement with the bank charges campaign as gross misconduct. Of course it would be contrary to the interests of the National Westminster Bank and other banks because they want to profit from bank charges even though they are are unfair and unlawful.
I'm sure there must be a banking union. I suppose they are probably in the pockets of the management but you should go and see them.
I would look very carefully at possible courses of action here because it could be that your dismissal has been unfair.
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
I was sacked for gross misconduct which I admitted to. I am not able to go into more details than that.
I made sure the process was correctly followed and took advice from ACAS as I was never unionised in the bank.
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Is this their worst decission since buying AMRO?
You are the type of person who bank customers want to see in banking.
It is their loss and will be another bank's gain if they have the forsight to offer you a job.
PS I hear there's an opening at FSA for somebody with Banking expierience!
'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'
Thomas Jefferson 1802
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Well I suppose that the bank knows a lot about misconduct
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I was sacked for gross misconduct which I admitted to.
I happen to know that you felt morally committed to what you were doing and therefore it was a matter of conscience.
I hear what you say that you have admitted to it but certain people I have spoken to are asking the question whether or not there is some pressure upon you to post about this in the way that you are doing.
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
BF, I thought it courteous of me to post the same message that is on 5 other forums rather than you hear it secondhand as this was after all the first site I registered for in June 2006.
I do wish you would spell out exactly what you mean rather than leaving comments in the air because then I would not feel that I am running uphill. Other forums where the message has been posted have users saying thank you and good luck. I guess I haven't been around here recently and maybe I do not know or am unable to gage the tone of CAG anymore.
I was dismissed yesterday almost 24 hours to the exact minute. Today is DAY 1. And I have no idea what is in store for me next. It won't be in financial services though. As I said thank you BF and the team. It is very early days still and I simply want to sort out the most important things such as getting new employment. That is a priority. Today was a day I set aside to inform users that I won't defend RBS Group anymore and that my opinions are not formed or based on who I work for as I do not work for them anymore. The statement was written by me prior to being dismissed but after I knew that it was an inevitable event.
Re: Nattie/Yourbank To replace James Crosby at FSA?
THANK YOU NATTIE!
You made a significant difference to this site and added an impartial informed view from "the other end of the telescope" which often helped bring people down to the reality of the uphill struggle they had with reclaiming these charges.
In my opinion you have been sacked for the crime of offering best financial advice to customers. The fact that your bank “doesn’t like it up em” pours water on their current advertising campaign pretending to offer completely free independent (and best?) advice to customersin branches.
Keep your chin up you are destined for greatness.
'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'
Thomas Jefferson 1802
Re: Nattie/Yourbank To replace James Crosby at FSA?
Originally Posted by SPROUTY
The fact that your bank “doesn’t like it up em” pours water on their current advertising campaign pretending to offer completely free independent (and best?) advice to customersin branches.
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
I have never read anything that you have posted that could be construed as gross misconduct. I have only just found this thread and am truly sorry that it has come to this.
I am sure you have the tenacity to sort out a future career and think you are well out of what can only be described as a sinking ship.
The very best of luck
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
I'm truly sorry to hear about this Nattie. You may post on 5 forums now, but I know you were with CAG almost from the start and have made valuable contributions. I'm so sorry it's come to this.
When the Liberals and Conservatives were in opposition they both agreed that banks should pay back high bank charges to customers. Nothing seems to of happened since they came into power as a coalition. PPI insurance has been sorted now they should turn their attention to bank charges and help customers get exorbitant charges refunded.
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
I would like to join the others in saying how sorry I am that this has happened. I have been a Natwest customer for over 30 years and was always reasonably happy with them - until joining CAG You helped me in my initial campaign against NatWest and I am very grateful for the help and what I learned from you.
All the best in whatever the future holds and thank you.
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Thank you guys who knew my identity and kept that secret.
For those who think it is a sad day for me, it isn't. Freedom is a strange thing, being able to give a name to a face. It is testament to the fact that the name I am known as on the forums, I will always be known as. Many people in the bank charges forums still call me Nattie and will always call me Nattie. It will take some time for me to debankify myself and to sort out the final pieces from RBS Group, like salary, etc,etc,.
I was proud to work for RBS Group and I am happy not to be working for them. And positive about my future(not going to say "the future's bright, the future's orange!!).
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Sad news, Nattie.
During the time that you've been involved with the forums, whatever name you were using at the time, you've always been very helpful and informative and you were instrumental in a lot of people regaining control of their lives.
On their behalf let me say a heartfelt thank you.
Whatever the future brings your way, I wish you every success.
Regards, Rooster.
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Dear Nattie -- I remember you helped me at the beginning too - for which I was (and still am) most grateful!
I think it's dreadful the way you've been treat - especially given their new tv campaign -- but then we all know that they all work more like the "introductory biscuit" advert that the Nationwide put out!!
I wish you all the very best for the future whatever you decide to do x
The banks will one day soon get their just desserts.
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GE Money - Received settlement of £441, being total charges requested. No interest though.
CCA'd Bank of Scotland / Blair Oliver Scott to produce CCA Agreements on two Credit Cards - well in default, although still chasing payment!!!
EOS Solutions "ceased action on account" on behalf of a friend.
All in all, quite busy at the moment and enjoying every minute of it
Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Well Nattie, I'm stunned to see the news, but am glad you're also seeing it as a positive. I can only echo Noomill's words of "I hope you will now become as dangerous an enemy as you were loyal as an employee". Thanks for all your help on all the forums - hope you get the upheaval sorted out and continue onwards & upwards
Cheers
Michael
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Re: Nattie/Yourbank has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct
Really sad to hear this, YB.
Think I've mentioned before my bro-in-law is ex Natwest manager, they forced him to work ridiculous hours and sacked him when he had a nervous Breakdown, so I've never been keen on NatWest as an employer. Im sure you didnt deserve to lose your job - neither did my bro-in-law, but hey ho, banks cant always see that when things dont go their way, can they?
Thanks and good luck. xx
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