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    Default Egg Top Up Loan CCA-any ideas?

    Hi there,
    Ive got some other Barclaycard sagas also running, but just received my Eggicon Loan CCA on Friday, and after reading Stevens excellent thread on agreements I thought I would ask for some other opinions. The agreements are for a loan originally taken out in 2004. In 2005 egg offered to pay off my egg card by putting it onto a top up loan, but would only allow it for this purpose. It was applied for over the phone and then they sent me the forms to sign. I have already had the PPIicon back on this but was just wondering if the agreement itself is enforceable. There is no acknowledgement of the restricted use part of the loan being different to the original amount borrowed?



    Egg PPI *WON* £5000 refunded off outstanding loan
    Hackney Council Parking Ticket *WON*
    Mint.....*WON* £600 Charges Off Credit Card
    Lloyds...*WON* £500 Charges off Credit Card
    Bcard Visa......CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Bcard/Morgan Stanley...CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Lloyds Current.....On hold




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    Default Re: Egg Top Up Loan CCA-any ideas?

    I cannot think of any "conventional" reason why this should be unenforceable. Eggicon have split out the prescribed terms between payment protection insurance and principal loan, therefore the section 18 multiple agreement arguments do not work in your case. (as opposed to my friend's agreement where it was all added together, which I'm sure you saw in Steven's thread).

    There has been a lot of discussion about whether these kind of ringfenced refinancing deals should be separately set out as well. This comes up time and time again in this epic thread:-
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ng-within.html
    If you don't have time to read through all that then just read the first 4 or 5 pages and then skip to posts #669 onwards, where your own question is being discussed.

    Well done on the PPIicon refund - do you mind me asking how you won?


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    Default Re: Egg Top Up Loan CCA-any ideas?

    It took one letter; I don't think I even sent it recorded! Basically, the loan was taken out over the telephone after I had filled in an online enquiry form where I stated I did not want PPIicon. On the phone I told them that I was self-employed (Eggicon did have a clause in the PPI apparently covering this but it was absolutely worthless to my situation) but they added it anyway and led me to believe I would not get the loan if I did not take it. They tried to locate the tape of the phone callicon when I complained, and couldnt find it, (although I could remember the conversation quite clearly and think it would have proved in my favour anyway) so they apologised and refunded the whole policy from my loan account. Pretty easy. I was so shocked by how much it reduced the outstanding loan, although I am still in a lot of debt, so am going through everything with a fine tooth comb now! From loans of that kind of time (2003/2004) I would be surprised if they had any of the tapes.

    Egg PPI *WON* £5000 refunded off outstanding loan
    Hackney Council Parking Ticket *WON*
    Mint.....*WON* £600 Charges Off Credit Card
    Lloyds...*WON* £500 Charges off Credit Card
    Bcard Visa......CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Bcard/Morgan Stanley...CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Lloyds Current.....On hold




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    Default Re: Egg Top Up Loan CCA-any ideas?

    Thanks for that, eastlondoner. We have asked them for copies of tapes and are still waiting.

    A shame you got it topped up in 2005 once they had sorted out their agreements to make them properly enforceable. I wonder if they knew about this problem back then, and that is why they were pressuring people to top up, thus replacing unenforceable agreements with enforceable ones?


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    Default Re: Egg Top Up Loan CCA-any ideas?

    I remember they were very vocal about wanting to do it at the time. I know my Eggicon card agreement was very possibly unenforceable, as I have it still. I would be very surprised if this was not a case of killing two unenforceable agreements with one stone. I only wish I knew then what I know now about credit. Creditors unfortunately do not allow for the mistakes of being young and extremely naive. Best of luck for your PPIicon case; will have my fingers crossed for you!

    Egg PPI *WON* £5000 refunded off outstanding loan
    Hackney Council Parking Ticket *WON*
    Mint.....*WON* £600 Charges Off Credit Card
    Lloyds...*WON* £500 Charges off Credit Card
    Bcard Visa......CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Bcard/Morgan Stanley...CCA Disputed; On Hold
    Lloyds Current.....On hold





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