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    Default Unenforceable CCA

    Can people advise if this is an enforceable CCA? Its "my copy" I was sent when I took the card out in 2000. Its double sided, and I have another two double sided sheets with the Ts&Cs.

    Would I be correct to say that its unenforceable because of the section on my credit limit, or lack of the word credit to be more precise?

    Could I also say its unenforceable as it fails to state a cooling off period?






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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    identical to mine and thats not enforceable

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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    What action have you taken, if any, CDS?


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    initially just cca'd them to see what they come up with

    will post when I get a responce

    regards and good luck

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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    It`s the exact one I have had back off them-still deciding what to do really, I will have to send an account in dispute letter. But can`t decide if I should make them a 2p in the £1 offer-it would be £100 in my case, or if I should wait until they make their next move.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    My account is settled, I just want them to remove the default they put on my CRFs and the subsequent one Lowell put on it too.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Hi craigers,

    Yes, this is like the hopefully unenforceable one fully explained over on this thread:
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...r-egg-cca.html

    However, as you have paid it off, unenforceability is not the issue for you.

    The general consensus on these boards seems to be that default removal is a long and difficult process with no guarantee of success at the end. I think you have to try and show that it is untrue, defamatory, it has caused you financial problems etc. to have a claim. Have you seen this thread:-
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...lback-egg.html

    When were the defaults? They drop off your files automatically after 6 yearsicon.

    Another question. How come you ended up with two defaults on the same account? This is something we are worried about on our Egg accounts which we are planning to stop paying on due to unenforceability issues. However, I have been unable to find a satisfactory answer so far on the question of whether they are allowed to default the same account more than once.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    In my understanding, a default is considered termination of the contract by the consumer. Therefore, it cannot thereafter be defaulted again.

    I think...


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    The two defaults are a result of Eggicon selling my account to Lowell when I entered a dmpicon. I entered a dmpicon in March 2005, making token payments for 6 months. For the first two months egg shown my payments as late, then after that they have listed my account as in default. After 2 years on the DMP, in July 2007, they sold my account to Lowell who promptly entered their own account on my CRF. That same month I was lucky enough to be in a position to make a F+F which was accepted. The account is currently shown as settled with both egg and Lowell on my CRF, with September 2007 and August 2007 as the respective settled dates.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    I CCAd Eggicon on 13/02/09. They've replied with their standard give us your signatureicon for security reasons guff. I've sent back a response basically saying that there's no point in sending my signature as it has changed significantly over the years and that they have sent me correspondence without needing a sig before.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Eggicon have once again come back asking for a signatureicon, and also to include documentary evidence to substantiate my identity! They are now in default.

    What next?


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    There is no consistency with Eggicon for some inane reason. They sent mine out and l didn't sign my request, l put in a photocopy of my drivers licence and copy of my utility bill.


    They are in default of your request, send them a letter saying as much and include the id.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

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    identical to mine and thats not enforceable

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    Could you please tell me why this one isn't enforceable? I've got two Eggicon agreements very similar to this (here: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...forceable.html) which I've thought a judge would enforce as they contain the prescribed terms...


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Well well well! Things have just got interesting. Received a 208 page response to my SARicon. Good bedtime reading methinks!


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    First thing, The buggers defaulted me for a grand total of just shy of £50. £50 bloody quid!


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Since defaulting and terminating the account they continued to charge PPIicon for the following 9 months.


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Despite asking for copies of default and termination notices, they have failed to provide them. I do see however from a screen dump that they sent a default letter on xx/xx/xx with a code DRSD 28 days. I'm presuming this letter stated I had 28 days to pay the arrears otherwise a default would be filed and the account terminated. Sure enough the same screen dump shows that a termination letter was sent exactly 28 days later. Sounds like the default notice may be iffy!


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    Hi Craigers,

    That agreement is the same as mine and I am rufusing all payment as its unenforcable. Any letters from them or they have even tried to reassign it, All I do is write to them and state "This account is in disputeicon - no further correspondence will be entered into"

    This shuts em up time and time again.

    I have no assets apart from a joint mortgageicon (They cant touch that) so I am really wanting them to push me into court and get it over with.

    I have no income either. Cant get whats not there. I really wish they would push me into court as there is nothing anybody could do.

    So in my case I am sort of ignoring them. (Im probably wrong, but they have an unenforcable agreement at the end of the day)

    Wey up your assets and if poss i would advise what I do.

    Take care


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    Default Re: Unenforceable CCA

    It has been reported on other threads that Eggicon does not keep a copy of default notices.



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