Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

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    Red face BT & Ex Directory..

    I was, well am, still so amazed at this little snippet of info I got from a very helpful BT customer service advisor the other day, no doubt it has been out there for a long old time but hey!
    I assumed that because I was ex-directory, whom ever I rang would not be able to see my number, or know what number was calling. Up until, my Mother answered the phone calling me by my first name?? How on earth did you know it was me mum? Because your number comes up?
    What! I'm supposed to be ex directory!
    Any how rang BT, told them I didn't want my number to be shown when I was ringing anyone, they said yes OK can do that. Ex-directory only means that it will not go in the phone book, nor will they divulge that information should anyone ring asking for it.
    Then I bought my mother a True call system, and part of that system won't allow withheld numbers to call, so I rang BT again, this time asking that I still wished to remain ex-directory but could I now show my number when calling?
    "Well" she said, "Why don't you have the best of both worlds? You can still withhold your number, but if you want someone to see who it is that is ringing, you simply dial 1470 before the number and that then will release your number"
    I was dumbfounded! I couldn't thank her enough! I mean why doesn't anyone tell you this from the very beginning? So there it is, in a nutshell, you can withhold your number, but if you want to let someone with caller ID see that your calling just dial 1470 before their number!

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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    Ex directory means your number will not be published in a telephone book, published online (i.e. 192.com) or given out by directory enquiries.

    The feature you are talking about is witholding caller ID. This is usually a optional extra from your service provider and you may be charged for.

    When you ring some one, either the caller ID is comes up as unknown, 1471 says something like "The Caller Withheld their number".

    If you have caller id withheld and try ringing me, you'll get a message "The person you are ringing does not accept anonymous callers" as I have Reject Anonymous Callers. Stops the DCAicon's and Sales persons calling if they have no return number.

    Frederickson - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - Lost - Claiming back from post office
    Connaught Collections - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - No Agreement - returned to client
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    Moorcroft - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - No Agreement - returned to client
    Red Castle - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - Copy returned but no T&C's
    Robinson Way - CCA Sent 16/5/07

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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    141 (the number to type before the telephone number to withold your own number) I believe is free with BT, but I would check.



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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    It's free. That said I'm amazed anyoune would think that 'ex directory' would mean that your calling line identty would somehow be uppressed, the services are totally different. Similarly, you can opt for a service called ACR (Anonymous Call Rejection) fee applies on BT, but Free of Virgin Cable where anyone calling you that Withholds their phone number will hear a message stating you do not accept such calls, and to call back, releasing their number.


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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    The only problem with that barring anonymous numbers service is that any company who you do want to call usually do not give their number. When I was in insurance, I had loads of complaints about phone callsicon not being returned, when in fact they were - its just that staff could not "reveal" the number and so had to send a letter.

    I think getting an answerphoen with call screening is better - you can here whos calling before deciding to answer (and if they are important they should leave a message) and it's free.

    But most of all, remember that a phone is a tool for your use. So many people seem to let phones rule their lives and feel a need to know who has called, when, what they want etc.

    I am happy for my phone to ring if I don't feel like answering it, even if I can here my mam on the message.

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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    And another problem.....on numerous occasions I have tried to contact family members of a patient admitted to hospital....if they do not accept anonymous numbers I can't get through, I have had to resort to using my own mobile (if I happen to have it with me) or sending the police round....
    something to bear in mind!


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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    You have to ask yourself, why are you withholding your number in the first place? Just because you are calling from a hospital does not provide any real excuse for not doing so. Previously it was because the PABX could not provide anything other than the main switchboard number, which was no use for a call back. However we are now 10 years down the line, and the new PABXs CAN provide the extension number (where DDI exists). So the problem is solved.

    Rather than complain about users protecting their privacy, it would be more relevant to ask WHY are we blocking our numbers? Incidentally, the police already have a work-around, that doesn;t send ANY number, so it is not blocked.


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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    I don't know why the hospital do it - I suspect ours is an old switchboard


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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    Same here. The Trust I work for has an ancient system and comes up as unknown.

    Frederickson - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - Lost - Claiming back from post office
    Connaught Collections - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - No Agreement - returned to client
    Lowell - CCA sent 11/4/07 - No agreement - returned to client
    Moorcroft - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - No Agreement - returned to client
    Red Castle - CCA Sent 11/4/07 - Copy returned but no T&C's
    Robinson Way - CCA Sent 16/5/07

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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    I know some companies have a separate line or some kind of system to combat this problem. I personally would prefer that companies reveal their number - their call could actually be important.



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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    It is also worth pointing out that there are 2 levels of 'ex-directory' from BT (I don't know about other providers).

    One level is no directory entry, but number can be obtained from directory enquires; the other is no directory entry and does not allow the number to be obtained from directory enquiries.

    As Buzby says, ex directory and witheld numbers are entirely different things and services.


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    Default Re: BT & Ex Directory..

    Pat, the 'trade term' for the no listing, no calls offered, is NQR, and is useful to ask for if you don;t want your new line to be shown on anything. It stands for 'No Quoted Reference' and BT treat this line in a special way, the only thing you appear on is BT's billing system. You also don't get marketing mails and other junk.

    When folk asked for phone lines for alarm systems, they were automatically made NQR so that nobody could discover the number via DQ call it, then break in (as the alarm couldn't dial out!). It's not requested often now, but the facility still exists.



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