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    Default Welcome Finance PPI

    Hi

    I have 2 loans with Welcome. The second loan cleared the original and settled the account.

    PPIicon was added to both accounts which i feel i fairly have strong grounds for reclaiming. I have made complaints to Welcome and they have given their final response that they are unwilling to refund any charges. As the agreements were pre-2007 i am unable to use the fosicon. I have tried the FLA but they are simply a mediator and hold no juristiction.

    I was wondering what actions i can now take to reclaim the PPI i feel i was mis-sold. Also the PPI that was added in the first loan was included in the settlement figure for which the second loan covered. Are they allowed to do this as i feel they have claimed the full PPI premium even though the second loan settled the account.

    Any advice will be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    the problem with these insurance products is that they are front loaded.
    that is the full ammount paid up front,
    welcome screw you at the high apr that way
    the norm is there should have been a rebate calculated
    time left on the original loan, interesticon re-calculation, etc
    did they give you a rebate figure on the first loan to carry on to the second
    bet they did not

    you then have a case for miss-selling
    but this is welcome we are talking about
    prepare for a hard slog


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    No rebate was done it was just incorporated into the second loan.

    They basically told me that if i took out the PPIicon i would stand a better chance of being accepted and as my credit file was not that good it would reduce the APR i paid. What a load of balls, if this is not mis-selling i dont know what is. My wife was prsent as witness to.

    Also i am not too sure but i am wondering if the agreements are set out corrrectly. They are pre-2007 so am not too sure how that will affect it but the total charge for finance etc is missing from it.

    Thanks


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    sounds interesting
    can you post the agreement onto your thread minus personel details
    leave in the figures
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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Here are the 2 agreements:

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    Think i have done it correctly


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    james
    i take it these loans are both cleared now
    i believe the agreements are bog roll

    where is the total ammount payable for a start
    thats a perscribed term


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    The first one was cleared using the second loan thats when i mentioned it looks like they have added the first lot of PPIicon to the second loan. The second loan is still oustanding with a default issued against me.

    I thought there were things missing but was not sure. As said i have done everything i can using their complaints system and fosicon cant do anything with them.

    I am looking for a refund in PPI, default removal and possibly wiping the debt due to it being un-enforcable it it turns out to be that.

    They also have not signed the second agreement it has not been blanked out by me.

    Thanks so far.


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    james

    come back tommorow and ill have all the ifo you need
    welcome have done you up like a kipper
    welcomes complaints is a waste of time

    its now pay back time
    are you still making payments to welcome


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    No stopped paying them in 2005 which is when the default came along.

    I didnt think things were right i have just been searching for a way out of it, get the default removed and claim back the PPIicon i have paid.

    Thanks so far, really appreciate it.

    James


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    thats why they have not come after you
    the agreement is crap

    have you done an SARicon
    do you have the default notice


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Yes i have done a SARicon.

    The default notice is present and holds all the information it should, only bit i wondered about is at the bottom there is a section for signatureicon that is unsigned.


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    can you post the default notice to have a nose


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Yes i will post it shortly will be up this evening.

    Thanks so far


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Here's the default notice. Bit tatty looking as if they have made it up when i requested it. Not signed either.

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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    hi james

    a default notice has to give 14 days plus 2 for service from date of the letter

    letter date 8 july
    remedy the breach 18 july

    thats only ten days

    as it stands its invalid

    dont take that as gospel until you get it confirmed
    the time scale might have been different in 2005

    hoping for you


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    I would like a bit of help please on behalf of my son. He took out a loan with Welcome and got himself into debt. He has sorted most of his problems out but is stiil left with WF to resolve. He can't afford to pay the loan off and Payplan are being useful except they seem not to want to get involved with the rights and wrongs of the PPIicon. Having read through this forum i thought that if we could get the PPI written of then his payments would get a bit more managable. I posted a copy of his agreement washed of personal details (i hope it works as i've never done it before) and the thing that strikes me is the boxes agreeing to PPI are pre-printed, surely this not legal. I have told him to write an SARicon which he is in the process of doing but in the meantime any advice from you great people would be appreciated.
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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Hi postggj

    Will have to find out about the default notice, even if it turns out to be ok if the agreements are crap it should never have been issued anyway.

    letters i have received from them when i went down the un-enforceable route implied that as it was pre-2007 the principles in which i sought did not apply ie, unsigned etc.

    Bottom line is that they are reguated by the CCA 1974 and there must be sections in there giving me some protection or whats the point?


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Hi again postggj

    Have you got the information you mentioned yesterday?

    Need a starting point with the enforcability of the agreements.

    Thanks


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    Default Re: Welcome Finance PPI

    Hi

    Thought i would bring this up again as i have hit a dead end with Welcome as expected and am looking for the best action to take next.

    Postggj you mentioned providing me with info but you never got back to me, is there any reason for that?

    Thanks



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