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I sometimes wonder if private parking control should be given some form of CONTROLED legal status
Earlier this week I visited the Bluewater retail centre in the South East .
The bad weather had forced the centre to close the 2 top decks of the parking area due to ice ,so parking space was limited to the ground floor
So what did people do ?
Parked anywhere , access roads, pedestrian foot ways, circulation aisles ,even flower beds
Bluewater did at one time try to control out of bay parking by clamping , and I presume , as it stopped almost as soon as it started , a successful legal challenge was mounted .
Whilst I support the aims of this forum , I have a good deal of sympathy with shopping centres such as these , I also live near the Nugent estate in Orpington which had a thread of its own over the break.
Again drivers take advantage of the lack of legal teeth this area has in controlling parking ,
I have seen a number of threads relating to drivers parking in disabled bays , loading areas , private access roads , then getting upset when brought to book , I am more than happy to park in a marked bay , not park on a private road , loading bay , and most definitely NOT in any disabled bay, whether in private land or not ,
Strictly controled and licensed with independent arbiters , giving legal powers to control parking to private land owners could be to the advantage of ALL drivers
Sorry, it wouldn't work out that way. just like decriminalised parking with its independent arbiters is not to the advantage of ALL drivers. And too much law to change as well. Severe conditions cause all kinds of problems not just for those that feel they have to shop in a large retail complex at such times. Quite how you leap to this from bad weather conditions is beyond me.
Perhaps I should have used shorter words to help you understand my post ,
Due to inconsiderate parking , it was almost impossible to drive the access roads or walk around pedestrian areas within Bluewater ,controlled parking would have helped
Get it now ?
sparkjeyrjp, no need for shorter words i can deal with long words and short words. my previous response stands. All the retail park has to do is to refuse entry once the car park is full.
Earlier this week I visited the Bluewater retail centre in the South East .
The bad weather had forced the centre to close the 2 top decks of the parking area due to ice ,so parking space was limited to the ground floor
So what did people do ?
Parked anywhere , access roads, pedestrian foot ways, circulation aisles ,even flower beds
So did Bluewater consider closing all the shops once they realised they couldn't provide the parking spaces to meet their customer's needs? No, of course they didn't, they were quite happy to keep the money coming in by whatever methods.
Clarification . as I did not include this in my OP
For those not aquatinted with Bluewater , The multi-storey part of the car park is nearest to the shops , there are thousands of parking bays in open car parks all round the centre all of which are free , obviously the parking nearest to the shops is the most popular ,
We did park near the shops and there were spaces available , admitted not many , and vast empty areas in the outer car parks so no need to shut access to the centre
What drivers did and do all the time ,is to save a short walk 100m at most , and park as near as possible to entrances to the shopping malls , blocking pedestrian footways ,and on that day access roads as well
Parent and child bays are blatantly used by drivers obviously not with young offspring ( I am past the need for these bays BTW) this is just laziness ,
I do hate the idea of a parking Hitler prowling behind me waiting for a mistake ,just as happens at the kerbside ,
But having in effect dismissed my suggestions , are there any constructive suggestions on how to encourage drivers to park thoughtfully
Sorry to lamma if I seem scratchy , just made redundant and , spending time Googling work opportunities and pondering how to spent my "job seekers allowance " amounting to £17.50pw
I think decent signage is the answer. Rather than "Parking here is a breach of T&Cs and you will be issued with a £80 parking charge notice" or whatever, I advocate actually trying to talk to people.
"Parent and Young Child Parking. Please be considerate and do not take these spaces from those who genuinely need them"
Parent and child bays are blatantly used by drivers obviously not with young offspring ( I am past the need for these bays BTW) this is just laziness ,
The problem is that there is no lawful definition of these bays - they are a pure marketing ploy.
What does 'Parent & Child' actually mean? If I take my 87-year old mother shopping, can I use them? After all we are a parent and child!
What does 'Parent & Child' actually mean? If I take my 87-year old mother shopping, can I use them? After all we are a parent and child!
What about my grandmother, she is 104 and is active with all her marbles, and her son (my father) is 76. Would they qualify, or is there a rule against the child being the driver!
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