Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

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    Default Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    I took out a £7.5k loan with Eggicon in September 2004 over 72 months (I increased my payments slightly during the term so it should get paid off at the end of this year (2009))

    From memory, during the initial phone application, the repayment figure the sales person quoted was inclusive of PPIicon. No other replayment figures were quoted, and no other options were discussed.

    The paperwork I got through did state that the loan was inclusive if PPI, but I assumed at the time that this was a requisite for having the loan. (The salesperson did not explicity state that it was a requisite, but he did not discuss any other options with me).

    Do I have a case? Or will it be deemed as my own fault becuase I signed and returned the forms?

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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    You certainly are in the frame for a case. Specially as Eggicon has recently been fined somewhere in the region of 750000 for misselling of PPIicon.

    You need to do a Subject access requesticon regarding your PPI.

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    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS Unenforceable Loan £18500 [B]Pending[/B][/COLOR]
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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingdoc View Post
    You certainly are in the frame for a case. Specially as Eggicon has recently been fined somewhere in the region of 750000 for misselling of PPIicon.

    You need to do a Subject access requesticon regarding your PPI.

    Great news Many thanks!

    I also has a much smaller loan with Northern Rockicon. My on-line application got referred (I didn't get an instant decision) so I had to contact them. In this on-line application I chose NOT to have PPI.

    When I contacted them (as requested by the webiste) the advisor asked me if I wanted PPI, and stated that it would improve my chanes of getting the loan becuase "it demonstrates a more responsible attitude towards borrowing". I think I will be writing a letter to them too!


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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    That is blatant misselling. They are NOT allowed to intimate that the loan is conditional on you taking out PPIicon.

    Opinions are offered in good faith based upon personal experience and research. Before making any irreversible decisions the opinion of a qualified, registered and insured legal professional should be sought.

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    [COLOR=red]Nat West Charges £1056 [B]WON[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS Charges £3600 [B]WON[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS Unenforceable Loan £18500 [B]Pending[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS PPI on loan above [B]Pending[/B][/COLOR]
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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingdoc View Post
    That is blatant misselling. They are NOT allowed to intimate that the loan is conditional on you taking out PPIicon.
    I'm so glad this site exists

    Letters to Eggicon and Northern Rockicon will be in the post tomorrow!


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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    Quote Originally Posted by dartvader View Post
    I took out a £7.5k loan with Eggicon in September 2004 over 72 months (I increased my payments slightly during the term so it should get paid off at the end of this year (2009))

    From memory, during the initial phone application, the repayment figure the sales person quoted was inclusive of PPIicon. No other replayment figures were quoted, and no other options were discussed.

    The paperwork I got through did state that the loan was inclusive if PPI, but I assumed at the time that this was a requisite for having the loan. (The salesperson did not explicity state that it was a requisite, but he did not discuss any other options with me).

    Do I have a case? Or will it be deemed as my own fault becuase I signed and returned the forms?


    I have just had another look at my agreement. (Just to re-cap - I took out this loan to pay off my Egg Credit Card. When I spoke to the salesperson on the phone, only one price was quoted, and this was the monthly repayment inclusive of PPI, no other options were discussed - I have sent the first template letter to Egg and so far received the standard "we are looking into your complaint" response).

    The actual agreement sheet shows the princiapal loan amount (£6200) the Loan Payment Protection Amount (£1429.16) and the Total Amont (£7629.16). The next line just says Number of Installments = 72, and 72 Payments of £132.52.

    There are no other figures shown anywhere i.e. no indication of what the loan will cost me in total inclusing the interesticon.

    The back of the sheet is where I sign. There is just one signatureicon required i.e. not a seperate signature for the loan and the PPI.

    Does this add additional weight to my argument? I didn't include this in my original letter, but if it adds additional weight to the argument (and assuming Egg come back and say NO to me, then I could potentially throw this back at them??).

    Also, I seem to remember emailing them through the secure messaging service sometime into my loan, requesting if I could cancel the PPI. I was told that I couldn't do this, but could take out a new loan without PPI. However, since the PPI was added to the total at the start of the loan, this would have meant the new loan would have included all these additional costs anyway so obviously I didn't take that up - is this another line of argument???


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    Default Re: Do you think I have a chance with my Egg Loan PPI reclaim?

    Hi dartvader

    You certainly have a potential case for mis-selling. My friend is going through a similar process at the moment with an Egg loan also taken out in 2004. Take a look at our thread:
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...riend-egg.html

    I'm sure your agreement is very similar to ours.

    The rules about having two separate signatures for the loan and the PPI only came into play in 2005. However, there have always been rules about explaining all the terms and giving all the options AT THE TIME OF THE SALE, not just by sending terms and conditionsicon through the post later. This is why there can still be mis-selling claims even though we have all signed the terms and conditionsicon.

    The point about there being such limited financial information on the agreement has led some posters to claim our (and probably your) agreement may even be totally unenforceable! But we are not getting our hopes up about that possibility too much yet.

    Your secure message point is an interesting one as I believe that Egg do not as a matter of course include these in their SARicon packs. However, that would be something to ask for in your follow up letter once you see what they do send you.

    I would also be curious to see if you get sent any tapes of the phone callsicon when they sold the loan to you, as pinknico is waiting for hers, and I have requested them. Again, see my thread for details.

    I would definitely say that collecting evidence is the first step, and then you can think about what arguments you want to put to Egg once you have the same information as they do.

    If they keep saying no then you can go to the Financial Ombudsmanicon.



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