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I know most people here fight their tickets, but I need the opposite.
I live in Bradley Stoke, Bristol, in a building whose car park has many UKPC warning plates.
Recently PeverelOM, the company managing the building sent all occupiers a letter reminding of the parking regulations and potential regular warden visits.
I have called them many times (more than 10 times since august), to ask for a warden to come and fine people not respecting the parking rules.
There is an increasing safety risk for people and property. Many times I have been blocked, had to do elaborate manouvers to leave the car park, and twice the firemen couldn't enter the car park to approach the building in the middle of the night. Also Many people block the trash hut, and many times the Trash have not been collected resulting in piles of plastic bags roting outside containers for almost a week.
Most parking rules violations happen when people are back from work.
They have never sent any warden. Why is there those notices if they don't patrol those area, or worse respond to phone calls?
You don't need to fine people. What will happen is within a day or two the inappropriate parkers may stop. But to maintain their ongoing profits, anyone whose permit has slipped, or whose wheels are over a line will get a ticket.
You need to get people the information informing them of the problems being caused, ensure that the companies give people the training so they understand their duties with respect to the health and safety of all.
Sometimes, unfortunately, people do not understand the meaning of that yellow hatching outside a fire escape door!
You don't need to fine people. What will happen is within a day or two the inappropriate parkers may stop.
Thanks for your answers, but unfortunaly , this is not what is happening.
I moved in in April, and it keeps getting worse.
Me and a few other flat occupiers (including a heavily pregnant woman partner) have talked direcltly to the worst offenders, but they don't care, so it is time to hit them where it hurt: wallet.
Unfortunalty, we have only 1 space for falt, I know at least one flat who brings 4 cars.
There are rules, and are here to be respected, otherwise it is mayhem
If cars are causing an obstruction, they need to be removed. The way to do that is to have a lawful towing scheme (big unambiguous signs, SIA licensed towing company, PSI compliant operations etc.).
Unenforceable invoices on an obstruction only serve as decoration.
Mickey mouse invoices demanding money, usually breaking all sorts of rules and regulations are no good.
I'm no advocate of clamping, but if there is a real problem I don't see a problem with introducing it if it was FAIR ie. clear signage, first clamp being a warning, second needing a £50 release fee.
You know how it is though - tow trucks mean storage fees, towing fees, dodgy cancellation charges. We've seen enough people on here being fleeced out of £400 from these crooks.
I'm not saying clamping isn't like this usually either, but it is at least possible to run a fair clamping scheme that will prevent people from abusing the car park.
Rather than thinking about 'removing obstructions' (are we going to be towing 4 cars from one flat away in one fell swoop) and using a hammer to crack a nut, I'm just saying there are other methods which could solve the parking problems over a period of a few weeks.
When I was an Engineer for...perhaps I'd better not say who, we had someone park a car on the [private] approach road to our premises, right outside the main gate.
This vehicle had been left there before....until one day, when one of my colleagues hooked a chain under the car, put the other end onto his Landrover, and dragged it out, leaving it on the public road on double yellow lines!
I know that there will be an outcry about damage, trespass, and all the usual from member of this forum, but....we never saw the car there again!
I bugged the company managing the building and they terminated the contract with UKPC. and I am the one responsible !
We'll have a new company soon
How is that "problem solved". You have got rid of one (unethical) PPC and no doubt will be looking to hire another. Their whole philosophy is flawed so you are making no progress here.
How do you expect the PPC to make money once the few (and I am sure it will just be a few persistant offenders) stop parking obstructively? They will then need to move on to the "legally" parked cars whose permit has slipped, park not quite in the bay, park in the bay for house 20 when their permit says they live at 22, etc etc.
Like others have suggested, it would seem your parking would benefit from a ETHICAL, short term clamping operation. Lots of signs, reasonable release fee and no long term contract. Perhaps you could employ an SIA clamper who only attends by request so that he isn't desparately looking for someone to clamp all the time. I am sure the regular culprits will soon cease to obstruct when it is costing them 50/60£ to get a clamp took off every time, and when the problem is cured you simply don't call teh clamper in any more so he isn't trying to make a buck off the "innocent" but not perfectly parked residents.
Well you've got to live with it. Personally I hate clampers and what they represent and the bully boys in the industry.
However their signage could do with a little work. A fixed penalty notice is issued by the police/traffic wardens. Bit naughty using that phrase.
Also clamping/towing is a remedy for trespass. They cannot claim for extras such as a callout for a tow truck. There is also the question of entitlement to damages. These must be claimed by landlord and should in theory be paid to him.
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