Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

£19.99 + £1.50 (P&P)




Last Will and Testament Kit


Make a legally valid will without the fuss and expense of a solicitor - includes a full step-by-step guide.

£9.99 + £1.50 (P&P)

BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

£13.95 + £2.00 (P&P)


Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg. 05783665 in the UK

reg. office:
923 Finchley Road
London
NW11 7PE



+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Hi

    I was given an Hitachi kettle a while ago (over a year, and I don't have a receipt as it was a gift), and recently the filter broke.

    I contacted Hitachi, who said they don't deal with it, and as it is a product only Currys/Dixons carry, to contact them. I did this, and they put me onto Partmaster, who in turn tried to chuck me back to Hitachi, then Currys.

    Now I am in a bit of a ding dong with Currys.

    Basically, this kettle cost £50, and is still being sold both instore and online. They are saying they can't repair it or get replacement filters, and unless I can produce a receipt I'm stuffed.

    My issue is that this isn't an old product that was discontinued years ago - it is still being sold, and I feel that as such they should be able to offer replacement filters. Either that or they need to state on it that replacements are not available, and as such if it breaks in a year and a day, you're going to be down £50 buying a new one.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can do? I'm loathe to buy another kettle when the only thing wrong with this one is the filter (and we get a lot of limescale, so we need it!)

    I'm very tempted to get another, nick the filter out and then take it back, but that would only put some other poor sod in the same situation

    Similar Threads:
    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  2. #2
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Mar 2006
    I am in
    (near) Stoke on Trent
    Posts
    10,618

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    I'm not entirely sure that they're obliged to stock spare parts.

    However you should be able to get a replacement kettle if you can prove you bought it from there. Did you pay with a debit or credit card? A statement showing the purchase would suffice.

    Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.


    "Some people say The Stig chews on spark plugs and drifts while walking. Some say he is terrified of ducks, and that there is an airport in Russia named after him. All we know is that he is really barracad from The Consumer Action Group" - Jeremy Clarkson (allegedly)



    www.unsubscribe-me.org

    www.LOVEstoke.org

  3. #3
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Unfortunately it was bought about 18 months ago by my mum. I daresay she could find the statement with the purchase on it (she certainly won't have the receipt), but the last email I had from them stated it must be under 12 months old.

    I'm just fuming that they can sell a kettle without the means to replace the filter if need be! I wouldn't mind if it was an actual fault, but it's a filter for crying out loud! I'm going to lose a £50 kettle (that I really like: and yes I know that's just a wee bit sad...) for the sake of a £2 replacement part

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  4. #4
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Mar 2006
    I am in
    (near) Stoke on Trent
    Posts
    10,618

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Well people pay £20 for a kettle and get many years use out of it, so I think it is reasonable to expect a £50 kettle to last longer than 18 months.

    I assume the filter broke due to poor quality, rather than being misused/dropped, etc? If so, I say find the statement and get them to sort out a replacement, the 12 months they are referring to is the manufacturer's warranty, which is irrelevant.

    Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.


    "Some people say The Stig chews on spark plugs and drifts while walking. Some say he is terrified of ducks, and that there is an airport in Russia named after him. All we know is that he is really barracad from The Consumer Action Group" - Jeremy Clarkson (allegedly)



    www.unsubscribe-me.org

    www.LOVEstoke.org

  5. #5
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Thanks for your replies

    That's what I thought

    No, it wasn't misused - I took it out to wash it and it was frayed round the edges and coming away from the plastic on one half.

    Can I ask what you mean about the 12 months being irrelevant? I thought that was the be all and end all, so to speak?

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  6. #6
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad Authoritative barracad's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Mar 2006
    I am in
    (near) Stoke on Trent
    Posts
    10,618

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    The 12 month period is usually the guarantee offered by the manufacturer - this is in addition to your statutory rights, it does not replace them.

    The Sale of Goods Act states that goods must be fit for purpose. If it doesn't last for a reasonable length of time, with ordinary use, then clearly it was not fit for purpose.

    Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.


    "Some people say The Stig chews on spark plugs and drifts while walking. Some say he is terrified of ducks, and that there is an airport in Russia named after him. All we know is that he is really barracad from The Consumer Action Group" - Jeremy Clarkson (allegedly)



    www.unsubscribe-me.org

    www.LOVEstoke.org

  7. #7
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Renzokuken Novitiate Renzokuken Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    435

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Unfortunately, partsmaster are supplied spares by the relevant companies that supply their products to the stores. If hitachi don't stock or supply filters outside of being packaged in with their kettles, then partsmaster don't have any means of aquiring a filter short of ripping a £50 kettle apart, rendering it unsellable and selling the filter to you.

    I've had an instance of this happening before in my branch, usualy the manufactorer is happy to provide spares direct off the production line at a price. I have no idea why they are so unwilling to do this because they clearly have access to them unless the kettle is discontinued, which it can't be if it's still in the store.

    I honestly don't see how "not fit for purpose" applies here to be honest, I'm not being defensive towards the company, I'm simply saying a filter is stuck inside a kettle, and thus protected by the shell of the kettle. If for example the metal/plastic was cracked or deformed when bought, fair enough, you'd have noticed as soon as you'd removed the cardboard/instructions from inside the kettle and returned it. But if the filter was removed for cleaning (the only real reason to touch a filter in a kettle) for example and excessive force was used to remove or clip the filter back in, then that would be a case of accidental damage. Other than these two scenarios, I don't see how else you'd damage a filter besides obvious neglect.


  8. #8
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Thanks for your replies both of you.

    I can honestly say there was no excessive force used. It was simply as I said in my last post - I took it out to clean it, and found it was frayed and coming away at the edges (which explained the limescale in my tea)

    I have to say I wouldn't have noticed if it was cracked when it was bought - this is the first time it had been out of the kettle. I cleaned it internally occasionally with a limescale tablet thingy, but never felt the need to remove the filter till now

    Anyway, I've written back to them stating I'm not impressed, but I'll give it one more go instore too, maybe mention that as it's still in production could they not whip one away at source...I am perfectly happy to pay, it's not like I'm after a freebie.

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  9. #9
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Unfortunately, partsmaster are supplied spares by the relevant companies that supply their products to the stores. If hitachi don't stock or supply filters outside of being packaged in with their kettles, then partsmaster don't have any means of aquiring a filter short of ripping a £50 kettle apart, rendering it unsellable and selling the filter to you.
    I've just absorbed what you wrote here...

    I wrote to Hitachi originally, and they were the ones who chucked me onto talking to Currys. If this is correct, and they knew they (Hitachi) don't stock those parts, then they must have known Currys would be unable to help!? Have they just passed the buck rather than deal with a simple request?

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  10. #10
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Renzokuken Novitiate Renzokuken Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    435

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lexis200 View Post
    I've just absorbed what you wrote here...

    I wrote to Hitachi originally, and they were the ones who chucked me onto talking to Currys. If this is correct, and they knew they (Hitachi) don't stock those parts, then they must have known Currys would be unable to help!? Have they just passed the buck rather than deal with a simple request?
    Either the person on the phone didn't know, or yes, thats correct.

    If you post or PM me the model number tonight, I can have a quick double check on the branch partsmaster list at work tomorrow just to be 100% sure there isn't anything I can do on on the companies behalf.

    And I mourn for the loss of your tea, truely I do.. No true englishman deserves a life without decent tea! :P


  11. #11
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    And I mourn for the loss of your tea, truely I do.. No true englishman deserves a life without decent tea! :P
    Do I detect the merest hint of sarcasm here?

    I don't think you're appreciating the enormity of this - I've had to swipe my mums spare one, and it leaks all over my worktop. Not only do I not have my lovely kettle (that you may have guessed I am overly attached to), but I'm having to clean up after the one I nicked from mum!

    Thanks very much for the offer - the only number on the kettle is KET2 (the chap I spoke to at Partsmaster said this wasn't a model number?). Other than that, on Currys website it's item number 659700 if that helps?

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  12. #12
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Renzokuken Novitiate Renzokuken Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    435

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Quote Originally Posted by lexis200 View Post
    on Currys website it's item number 659700 if that helps?
    Thats all I need, cheers. I'll let you know if I find anything tomorrow.

    I'll have a word or two with Hitachi too.


  13. #13
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    ForestChav Informative ForestChav Informative ForestChav Informative ForestChav's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2007
    I am in
    Nottingham
    Posts
    854

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Quote Originally Posted by barracad View Post
    Well people pay £20 for a kettle and get many years use out of it, so I think it is reasonable to expect a £50 kettle to last longer than 18 months.

    I assume the filter broke due to poor quality, rather than being misused/dropped, etc? If so, I say find the statement and get them to sort out a replacement, the 12 months they are referring to is the manufacturer's warranty, which is irrelevant.
    Mine was about £5, tesco value thing about 3 years old.

    The above post constitutes my personal opinion on the facts in the post compared with my personal knowledge of the applicable legislation. I make no guarantees of its legal accuracy. If you are in doubt seek advice of a legal professional specialising in the area concerned.

    If my post has helped you please click my scales!

  14. #14
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative flyingdoc Highly informative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Feb 2008
    I am in
    Cheshire
    Posts
    1,518

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Having not seen the kettle mentioned I cannot say - but as a question - would it be possible that as water has been poured into the kettle over the last 18 months - this has "eroded" (for want of a better word) the filter and this is why it is frayed.
    If this is the case then the "not fit for purpose" would possibly raise its head again as you would expect that if there was potential for this to happen it should have been designed to withstand it.

    Opinions are offered in good faith based upon personal experience and research. Before making any irreversible decisions the opinion of a qualified, registered and insured legal professional should be sought.

    If my advice or information has assisted you in any way - please click my scales.

    thanks

    [COLOR=red]Nat West Charges £1056 [B]WON[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS Charges £3600 [B]WON[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS Unenforceable Loan £18500 [B]Pending[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]RBS PPI on loan above [B]Pending[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=red]MBNA Credit Card [B]CCA & SAR Sent[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=#ff0000]Co-op Credit Card [B]CCA Sent[/B][/COLOR]

  15. #15
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Hi flyingdoc

    Possibly, but I'm a bit anal with filling kettles and only do it through the lid, not the spout, so I'm not sure if there'd be enough pressure on it just from normal pouring? Unless I suppose it was already on its way when it was bought.

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  16. #16
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Renzokuken Novitiate Renzokuken Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    435

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Had a look at partsmaster for you, they don't stock spares for any hitachi kettles, not just the one you own.

    I'll give them a ring tomorrow, I would have done it today but I spent most of the day messing about with someone trying to fraud us out of £1400 of TV equipment using false details on a credit agreement.

    Ain't some people grand.


  17. #17
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Thanks very much for taking the trouble to do that Renzokuken, it's really good of you, especially when it sounds like you had a cracker of a day!

    Lexis

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  18. #18
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    methodical Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1

    Smile Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Hope it's not too late, but I have some good news on replacement filters for KET2 kettles.

    I have one of these and the filter broke, and I came across this site trying to find a replacement (and got the bad news that you can't get them).

    However ...

    I have found (bit of luck really) that the filter from a Russell Hobbs 13775 is identical to the one in the KET2, and you can get spares of these (on ebayicon for about £5). Works a treat.

    Hope this helps


  19. #19
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200 Authoritative lexis200's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2008
    I am in
    need of chocolate
    Posts
    2,641

    Default Re: Currys - current product but they don't stock spare parts

    Thanks Methodical, that's superb

    I ended up having to buy a new kettle in the end! It was on half price though so not too desperate I'll be on ebayicon soon for spares just in case

    Lexis

    Time flies like an arrow...
    Fruit flies like a banana.


Browsealoud
Video Tour



Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road London NW11 7PE