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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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This hasn't actually happened to me but I was having a look at my lease and it states that if rent payment is over 3 days late then the landlord will start adding charges onto the sum owed. If it did actually happen would I be able to claim them back or argue the case for not paying the charges in a similar way to reclaiming bank charges?

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This hasn't actually happened to me but I was having a look at my lease and it states that if rent payment is over 3 days late then the landlord will start adding charges onto the sum owed. If it did actually happen would I be able to claim them back or argue the case for not paying the charges in a similar way to reclaiming bank charges?

 

I imagine you would, but the landlord perhaps has a better chance than a bank does of proving that he has incurred a cost.

 

For example, if you paid him late and he incurred bank charges as a result, it would be cut and dried that he had incurred a cost, namely those charges.

 

I doubt if you'd get anywhere in a small claims court arguing that he should sue to get those charges back either....

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Not only that if you were then successful the landlord would probably get the last laugh by giving you 2 months notice to get out.

 

It really is very very hard to win with landlords, most of whom aint exactly nice people who give a monkeys about their tenants (there are exceptions but not many!)

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Not only that if you were then successful the landlord would probably get the last laugh by giving you 2 months notice to get out.

 

It really is very very hard to win with landlords, most of whom aint exactly nice people who give a monkeys about their tenants (there are exceptions but not many!)

 

Seems like a sweeping generalisation. I am a landlord of 2 properties and I myself rent another one in which to live, and I am exceedingly nice to a fault both as a tenant and as a landlord :-)

 

If you were late paying rent and a landlord did start adding charges, I would challenge them immediately by asking for a breakdown of how they were arrived at. If any of the breakdown included things like 'management time' I would further ask to see the basis on which this time has been costed.

 

Your deposit belongs to you and the presumption is that you get it all back unless the landlord can prove something has suffered from more than reasonable wear and tear. It's not, as I understand it, for you to prove that it hasn't, it's for him to prove that it has.

 

The only time I've ever deducted anything from a tenant's deposit was when they had used a brillo pad on the stainless steel facia of an oven. In so doing, they had scoured off all the temperature and settings markings that told you what knob did what. This effectively made it unusable by anyone not familiar with the oven, so I knocked off £50 of the £80 replacement cost and explained why, enclosing a copy of the invoice.

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While it will more than likely sour the relationship with the landlord, you could do what I did. Tell the landlord that it is clearly not your responsibility to compensate them for the unlawful actions of the bank. :D Got mine off my back for long enough to put a package together.

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This hasn't actually happened to me but I was having a look at my lease and it states that if rent payment is over 3 days late then the landlord will start adding charges onto the sum owed. If it did actually happen would I be able to claim them back or argue the case for not paying the charges in a similar way to reclaiming bank charges?

 

As tenancy agreements are covered by the The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999, such a clause may well be unenforceable. Only a court can decide whether a term is unfair or not though. If the charge was clearly a penalty, unrelated to the actual cost to the landlord of the late payment, then he probably hasn't got a leg to stand on.

 

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Seems like a sweeping generalisation

 

(there are exceptions but not many!)

 

What part of there are exceptions did you not understand?

 

Yes it was a sweeping generalisation but I have been renting properties for 12 years now and ive only ever had dealings with ONE agent/landlord who actually cared and did the job properly and that was Dakings and they were acting for an investment group.

 

In the other 8 places ive lived the landlords have been quite frankly pants and all did their hardest to hold onto as much deposit as they could

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Debtgirl in reply to your posting:

 

1.Clauses as you have mentioned are introduced so that tenants pay their rent on time and not essentially to enforce them.

 

2.As far as being enforceable are concerned if the delay in payment of rent has interest charged in favour of the landlord at a rate of the County Court - 8%.This would not be unfair or excessive.

 

3.Always use the "reasonability test" in this sort of scenario i.e.if it seems too too excessive in fees/costs/interest etc etc it is not enforceable.It is as simple as that!

 

4.As has been posted,if you have a shorthold tenancy your rights are fairly limited and it is fairly easy to evict you - but of course only with a court order.

So be careful how you approach this sort of problem should it arise.

 

I hope you find this information useful.

 

If you have any questions,just ask.

 

All the best!

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Thanks very much for the info everyone, very interesting, I actually have a fantastic landlord but it is good to know where I stand should problems arise.

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It really is very very hard to win with landlords, most of whom aint exactly nice people who give a monkeys about their tenants (there are exceptions but not many!)

 

I am not terribly happy about this statement. I am a professional landlord - I have 7 properties. I would not dream of treating a tenant in anything other than a professional manner.

 

Certainly, there are so bad landlords out there and there are some pretty terrible tennants too but attempting to tar us all with the same brush is not necessary.

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Debtgirl,put a latch/bolt on your door to stop your landlord from entering the property when you are in it.

 

If the landlord enters your property when you are out there is little you can do really.However,he should not enter your home without your permission because he would classed as a trespasser.

 

Please read the other threads/posts within the Landlord & Tenant Section regarding problems of this nature and the rest! - to educate yourself further.

 

I hope you find this information useful.

 

If you have any questions,just ask.

 

All the best!

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I am not terribly happy about this statement. I am a professional landlord - I have 7 properties. I would not dream of treating a tenant in anything other than a professional manner.

 

Certainly, there are so bad landlords out there and there are some pretty terrible tennants too but attempting to tar us all with the same brush is not necessary.

 

But thats exactly it what part of "There are exceptions" do you not understand I AM NOT TARRING YOU WITH THE SAME BRUSH thats what that qualifier means for goodness sake how many times do I have to repost that line?????

 

Please read all of the post before whinging about it. It is my opinion and I am perfectly entitled to make it. In 12 years of renting as I have said I have had 1 landlord who I thought was great.

 

Other than that I have not even alleged they havent acted professionally asking someone to leave who is causing problems as per above is still acting professionally providing it is done properly things like not providing timely repairs is not acting professionally which I have not actually accused anyone of on here (apart from current landlord).

 

The other fact remains about renting is that you have little to no security sadly. What has tended to happen lately with the rise in house prices is that landlords have booted people out so they could jack up the rent by £150 pcm and rerent it to a new tenant for the new price.

 

To be blunt and I dont mean to be rude but I couldnt give a monkeys whether I hurt your feelings with my statement above especially considering that it wasnt aimed at you personally and that it was qualified to say that NOT all landlords are bad unless you have a guilty conscience and feel you fall into the other category? ;)

 

PS that last sentance was a joke hence the smiley at the end just thought I better point that out seeing as you didnt get my exceptions line in the first place

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Hi,

 

I have just received the deposit I originally paid for a year's lease on a student property, which I no longer reside in. They have charged me £35 for a late rent payment. The reason the payment was (three weeks, hardly excessive in my view) late was because my student loan had not cleared; had I written a cheque anyway, my bank would have charged me £30 as it would have bounced. I was expecting the loan to clear relatively quickly. so I could sent a cheque for rent. £35 is excessive - it does not cost that much to send a letter, which is what they did, addressed to three tenants in the same situation, and we explained the situation. Furthermore, we repeatedly requested a copy of their lease agreement during the tenancy, (the ownership of the property changed hands during the time I was there) and we were ignored, so we had no idea we would be charged for late payments. I am definitely going to claim - will focus on the disproportionate amount etc and I have read the tips on this fantastic website :) so here goes.........

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BlueandWhiteOwl,

 

In reply to your post:

 

1.In the first instance,I would suggest that you have a "nice word" on behalf of all of you to reclaim the amounts taken off of you collectively.

 

2.Failing that,obtain a copy of the agreement before you go ahead with any claim.

 

3.Follow other threads on the process of claiming and if you get stuck,just ask.

 

 

Keep us posted.

 

All the best!

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