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I parked in a bay where the charges were 50p for half an hour or 120p for 2 hrs, I put in a 1 pound as I didnt need two hrs and came back 65 mins later to find I just received a ticket. I wrote to the council who wrote back saying the tarif was clearly stated.
I was paying for time to park my car, I understood the payment to be 50p for the first 30mins and 70p for next 130 mins, therefore the extra 50p that I paid should have covered my for about an extra 100mins.
Taking the councils logic it seems that if I had put 119p into the machine I would still have only been covered for 30 mins, I don't think their signs clearly state this, does anyone think it would be worth appealing?
englishsummer may well be right, though his/her motives for joining the forum are not yet clear to me.
However, should you feel the need to challenge the ticket, it is recommended that you post up scans of the ticket (both sides) and the letter received. If you are lucky, the ticket may be wrongly worded in some way which the experts here will identify. Wash off the personal details.
However, should you feel the need to challenge the ticket, it is recommended that you post up scans of the ticket (both sides) and the letter received. If you are lucky, the ticket may be wrongly worded in some way which the experts here will identify. Wash off the personal details.
Even if you don't feel the need to challenge the ticket you should post it up anyway. There may procedural improprieties or it may incorrectly worded and therefore invalid.
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They can't put every possible option 1min=x, 5min=x
Really? I must be imagining that machine outside my house then!
They can and many do. Machine near me is graduated in 6 min periods beyond first 30 mins.
The meter does not operate incrementally and I don't think this is clearly labeled on the machine. This penalises the person parking unless they have the exact money. If I had paid 2 pound I still would have only got 2 hrs parking and the council gets to keep the extra 80p.
I agree that the machine should not have to tell you that it is not graduated - only that it should tell you if it is.
In this case, clearly good reason to issue the pcn. However, if the ticket shows an amount paid of £2 and you have also explained this - then I see no reason for them to have not exercised their discretion and cancelled. It might even be arguable, if £2- is shown, that you did in fact pay - would be up to an Adjudicator.
It would appear there is little point in any of us reading further postings from englishsummer as they are clearly going to be biased towards PPC and the paying thereof.. not that it took most of us long to work out where he worked from his posts even before he admitted it.
Really? I must be imagining that machine outside my house then!
They can and many do. Machine near me is graduated in 6 min periods beyond first 30 mins.
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It is possible to graduate a machine with a constant tariff but in this case the tariff changes so there is no constant set charge per minute.
Did I at any point say there was? No. I was responding to the comment from the ppc troll that said it wasn't possible - fullstop = untrue.
Why you choose to post to state, in the words of Mr Cleese, 'the bl*****g obvious' I don't know?
That post must have been deleted the one I read simply said it was not possible for the Council to break down the cost in minutes for a machine that charged 2 set prices!!? I foolishly thought it was in regards to this case as I could not see what relevance the machine near you has to this case or why anyone would want to discuss it?
That post must have been deleted the one I read simply said it was not possible for the Council to break down the cost in minutes for a machine that charged 2 set prices!!? I foolishly thought it was in regards to this case as I could not see what relevance the machine near you has to this case or why anyone would want to discuss it?
Nope. i was referring to the only post relevant and it is still there as you well know - despite your poor attempt at sarcasm.
You clearly interpret it differently to me.
The first sentence is factual. The second sentence is not and gives no direct connection to the first as you interpret. It is a blanket statement saying that something is not possible - which is entirely possible.
yet again you choose to derail a thread and in this cae, where the OP has already had to suffer the oponions of a ppc troll.
Straightforward question. This OP clearly believed they had paid for parking, may have made a mistake and now understand. Do you honestly believe that they should be penalised?
Or, do you believe:-
a) they made a mistake but they must be penalised for some reason - and please explain that reason.
b) they must be penalised because they may not be telling the truth - in which case explain how either you or said Council feel the right to judge.
Nope. i was referring to the only post relevant and it is still there as you well know - despite your poor attempt at sarcasm.
You clearly interpret it differently to me.
The first sentence is factual. The second sentence is not and gives no direct connection to the first as you interpret. It is a blanket statement saying that something is not possible - which is entirely possible.
yet again you choose to derail a thread and in this cae, where the OP has already had to suffer the oponions of a ppc troll.
Straightforward question. This OP clearly believed they had paid for parking, may have made a mistake and now understand. Do you honestly believe that they should be penalised?
Or, do you believe:-
a) they made a mistake but they must be penalised for some reason - and please explain that reason.
b) they must be penalised because they may not be telling the truth - in which case explain how either you or said Council feel the right to judge.
c) whatever other explanation you can think of.
When do you suggest an 'honest mistake' should escape a penalty? If 'it was an honest mistake' was a valid excuse no one would ever get fined or face the consequences of their actions. How is the Council supposed to know the difference between someone who in error thought a yellow line restriction had ended but hadn't and someone who thought they would chance it? How does the Council in this case know if it was an honest mistake or that the driver understood the tariff, paid £1 as that was the only coin he had for 30 mins and just came back late. If the machine was gaduated it would be a £1 for 60 mins so he was late anyway if he returned after 65 mins so would have got a ticket anyway, lol.
Misleading parking tarifs
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Re: Misleading parking tarifs
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