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    I dont know quite how to proceed, hence the plea for help. Before anyone can there are things you need to know, so bear with me please. I have debts (surprise surprise) these are made up of student loan of £10000 (currently frozen cause earnings too low, it will apparently be cancelled when I reach 60?) A debt to the CSA of £3000 that they have just started chasing after 3 years of hearing nothing. And several credit card debts amounting to about £9000 going back over years. I am in the position now where I alternate between paying the minimums and transfering balances. Not ideal I know. I have no spare cash to make inroads on these debts. Over the years I must have re-paid the original debts over and over. I just want them all off my back so I can go forward with a clean slate. The only way I can see to do this is to go bankrupt? What do you all think?

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    Hi and welcome to CAGicon.

    student loan of £10000 (currently frozen cause earnings too low, it will apparently be cancelled when I reach 60?)
    Which year was this originally taken out?

    A debt to the CSA of £3000 that they have just started chasing after 3 years of hearing nothing.
    What have they sent you so far? Have you had any communication with them?

    several credit card debts amounting to about £9000 going back over years.
    Who are these with and when were they taken out? Are there many charges on the credit card accounts e.g. late payment charges, overlimit charges?


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    Hi Rory thanks for replying

    OK student loan is made up of several running from 1995.
    CSA debt loads of letters and phone callsicon over the years, since about 1990, recently the demand letter for full amount, I have always paid a nominal £8 per month, I phoned them tried to negotiate, they weren't interested. It was clear from what they said that they had a credit report on me, they knew the state of my bank account and my credit cards and how much credit I have available. They even suggested I pay the debt with a credit card.
    Credid cards, Eggicon, B card, Halifaxicon and virgin. I've moved the debts around so much I don't really know when and where they came from, no overlimit charges, but some maybe 8-10 late charges.

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    OK student loan is made up of several running from 1995.
    Okay. This would be an old style student loan the which is covered by the consumer credit act. Have you asked for a copy of the credit agreement for these loans? Without a copy of the credit agreement the account would be legally unenforceable.

    CSA debt loads of letters and phone callsicon over the years, since about 1990, recently the demand letter for full amount, I have always paid a nominal £8 per month, I phoned them tried to negotiate, they weren't interested. It was clear from what they said that they had a credit report on me, they knew the state of my bank account and my credit cards and how much credit I have available. They even suggested I pay the debt with a credit card.
    That's very naughty of them. Really they shouldn't be asking you to do this. Do you have this in writing or was it over the phone that they suggested this?

    Credid cards, Eggicon, B card, Halifaxicon and virgin.
    Again you should be asking for a copy of the credit agreement. Egg will probably have an enforceable one but the others possibly won't.

    There's a template for asking for a copy of the credit agreement here (template N). You should send it recorded delivery with a one pound postal order. do not signicon the letter.

    If after 12 full working days from receipt of your request they have not supplied a copy of the agreement then they are in default. What this means is that they can not enforce the agreement until a compliant copy of the agreement is produced.

    To find out a bit more about what should be in a compliant credit agreement have a read here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...le-useful.html


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    Hi Rory
    I don't think the student loan is a problem, I am disabled and they have told me it will be cancelled when I reach 60, I don't think that between now and then my earnings will go over the threshold.

    The CSA suggestion to use a credit card was made over the phone. I have written to them requesting a full account of how they reach my debt figure, and asking them to confirm that I can settle the debt by credit card. I also sent copies of my letter to the local and national press also to my MP. I had a reply from them saying they will try to answer my request within 15 days, if they can't they will phone me to negotiate an extension to this time limit.

    I'm just about to transfer the Eggicon balance (any suggestions). As for the others I will request a copy of the agreement from them ASAP.

    I really apreciate this help.

    Cheers.


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    I'm just about to transfer the Eggicon balance (any suggestions).
    Is this to one of your existing cards?


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    why rory?


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    Because if you take out a new card it will be governed by the 2006 Act which repeals the part of the 1974 Act that makes credit agreements unenforceable if they don't contain all the prescribed terms.


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    sh 1 t so if i signed a card after 2006 im shafted?


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    No. The 2006 Act was staggered in it's implementation. The parts of s127 that were repealed (this is the section that deals with judicial enforcement) weren't repealed until 6th April 2007.


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    It is yes, sorry for the delay in replying.

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    The CSA suggestion to use a credit card was made over the phone. I have written to them requesting a full account of how they reach my debt figure, and asking them to confirm that I can settle the debt by credit card. I also sent copies of my letter to the local and national press also to my MP. I had a reply from them saying they will try to answer my request within 15 days, if they can't they will phone me to negotiate an extension to this time limit.

    The CSA's own deadline to reply has now run out, I have heard nothing from , I don't know what to do next?

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    I really apreciate this help.

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    You could make an official complaint to the CSA just to give them a nudge.


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    Hi Rory
    I'm a bit scared to take on CSA. I think I'll just wait a bit longer.

    I might just take on one of my CC debts though.
    I'm just scared that if I make the first move that they will escalate the whole process, demand full payment or something, if I fail can I keep paying as I do now? (groan)
    Will my other card holders get wind of what I'm doing and go after me?
    This seems a scary path to go down.

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    Well your other option is just to leave CSA alone for now as they aren't bothering you at the moment and if they do you can just refer them to your written request on how they have reached this figure.


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    Hi All
    hope you're all well?
    I still haven't worked up the courage to sort out my CC's, but I have an interesting tale to tell.
    Bare with me I may go on a bit.
    About 10 days ago I went into a strange bank to pay one of my cards, I paid the min on B Card.
    A couple of days later I had a phone callicon from said bank (Lloyds) inquiring if I had adequate service on my visit, I said it was fine. He said he noticed I was paying interesticon on the card, also that I used to have a Lloyds CC that I closed some years ago, he said I qualified for a new card and 1 year of 0% and asked if I would like one and to transfer the balance, I said sounds like a good idea, he said he would be in touch but to continue paying until then.
    A couple of days later I got in the post a pin mumber.
    A couple of days later I got the card with £3500 limit.
    A couple of days later I got the agreement to sign.
    Followed next day by a letter telling me they had transferred the balance.
    I don't quite know what to make of it.
    Any comments anyone.

    Watch this space.

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    Hi all
    Hope you all had a good xmas.
    I dont seem to have had any comments to my last post?
    Have I done something wrong?
    Is it in the wrong place ? or what?
    I have an update , I've now recieved the first statement on this account, I dont know what to do - ignore it, pay it, or just tell them I dont want it and get it transferred somewhere else?

    Anyone out there or have I screwed up and been sent to coventry or something?


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    I've now recieved the first statement on this account,
    Do you mean your new Lloydsicon credit card?

    Did you actually agree to the balance transfer and sign the agreement?


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    Hi all
    All the best etc, etc.

    So did you sign???


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    Default Re: Help please

    Hi everyone
    good to hear from you Rory, it was getting a bit lonely out here.

    Yes I mean the new Lloydsicon credit card.

    I certainly didn't say "please transfer the balance" I did say that sounds like a good idea, or words to that effect, fully expecting that before I needed to actually make the decision I would have had more paper work plus an agreement to sign.

    So no I have signed nothing.

    The pay by date is the 12th so I have a few days left to decide what to do, scarry or what.

    Cheers

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