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    Default CHallenging a parking ticket

    HI wonder if anyone can help me i have been given a ticket for being in a 2 hour parking zone too long. I was actually parked on a wide bit of pavement off the road. when i challanged the fact that i was not on the road but on the pavement they sent me another letter saying they were charging me for parking on double yellow lines. I thik i have a case to challange it on procedural grounds but cant fnid the relevant legislation. ANyone help thankyou!!I dont think that they can give me a ticket for one thing and then fine me for a differtent offence can they??

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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    When you say 'parking ticketicon' what exactly have you received and from whom?


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    Its a pcnicon from Reading Borough COuncil. I challenged it the first time as iwasnt in a bay. thewy then sent me the letter saying that as i was parked on the pavement where their are double yellow lines that that is now the fine. However in the cahllenge options it says procedural impropriety. NOw giving someone a ticket for one thing and then charging them for another i would tink is a procedural impropriety but not sure what the relevant law i can cahllenge them on is.. Thanks for answering


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    It in't a 'fine' and they are not 'charging' you with anything. Both of those expressions refer to criminal matters.

    the pcnicon will state a 'contravention'. What does it say that was?

    better still show us all of the PCN


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    You may well have a case - you may not. There are all kinds of possibilities but at the moment you have all the info and I have nothing to work with.

    The issue of 'changing' something is interesting but depends on exactly how that is.


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    Remember - you know the timescale and sequence of events - i don't.

    You know exactly what documents you have and what they say - I don't.

    At which point was this 'change'? Is it in a response to your informal challenge or have you received a Notice to Owner?


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    OK i dont have scanner so cant scan it in but will attempt to reproduces it as best i can.

    I was parked on the pavement outside my house t is a large piece of concrete with no footpath

    pcnicon original caontravetion 18/09/08 reason given:
    "parked in restricted steet during prescribed hours"

    I then challenged this saying that as i wasnt actually on the carriageway how they could chrage me with being in a specific parking zone. They reviewed my case abd then sent a letter saying

    "I have considered the particular circumstnces of your case and regret to inform you that the reasons given in your letter are not sufficient grounds for councellation of the PCN. We have reviewed your case, however, at the time of the contravention the vehicle was seen parked by yellow lines, whereby parking here is prohibited at the time of the OPCN being issued and this applies from the centre of the carriageway to the edge of the property"

    To me they have changed the fine and that dosent seem fair. DO you think i have a case?


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    The letter is a notice to owner btw


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    The change was to the informal online challenge


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    Not on that issue no.

    The original contravention hasn't changed, it is still as stated. As they say, yellow lines apply to all of the highway, not just the road.

    There are numerous possibilities on non-compliant documents though (very common) - and not seen a Reading one.

    Need those scans mate. Digi cam can do it on close up if you pin them flat on a door? Host images on 'tinypic' and use the direct URL - 'IMG code for forums - - '
    some internet/PC repair shops have scan facilities.
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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    Thanks fro you help and interesticon ill figure out how ican get the documents to you.

    IT may help if i give you more onfromation. I live in Reading town centre all residents parking. I now have a permit!! Where i was parked was on the pavement next to restricted and residents parking zone. is there a safe way i can give you my details and you can view it online https://parking.reading.gov.uk/ hope that makes sense ...


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    The point being - that if either of the pcnicon or NtO do not comply with Regs then they are invalid and cannot be enforced.

    Are we talking double yellows BTW?


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    If you click on my name - then contact info - then send message - i will get PM. I assume you're asking me to view photo evidence of the location yes?


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    They are doubles so pcnicon and NTO are taken as two seperate things yeah?Can they really change the contravention between the two?


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    No they can't but I can't see that they have? The contravention on the pcnicon you posted - is it the same stated on the NtO?

    When you do scan docs, open them in Windows 'Paint' and use the eraser to remove personal and car details.


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    yeah sure i will anonimise.

    BUT thats my point on the pcnicon contravention Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours

    NtO contravention vehicle was seen parked by double yellow lines!!


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    - and they are the same. Curious change of wording but both descriptions accurately describe the contravention which is all they are required to do.

    'parked in a restricted st, etc' is the correct contravention for yellow lines.
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    As they explained - being on the pavement is irrelevant - the yellow lines still apply.


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    rubbish so i guess i gotta pay it then yeah?


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    Default Re: CHallenging a parking ticket

    Thanks for your help im still gonna challenge it on those gronds even if ti just to make sure i get only £35 fine rather than £70 NIce One mate


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    It is worth having those documents checked cos possible to win on legal technicalities.

    may be nothing wrong but many, many have flaws.



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