Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

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    Default Unfair PCN - please help

    Hi ,

    I hope someone can help me out here.

    I received a pcnicon yesterday in Tower Hamlets
    Contravention Code ; 21 - Parked in a Suspended Bay.

    Opposite the Bay where I parked I saw this sign:



    Further Down (about 30 meters down from where I was parked on the same side of the road) there was this sign


    Here is where it was parked




    Obviously I only noticed these signs after I got the ticket !

    This is a car sharing car I rented for the day, so it is not registered to me.

    The date of the ticket was on the 13th November - the only sign I saw when I parked said 'Bay Suspended 15th November'

    I think I should go back during the day to get some clearer pictures!


    Any advice - I am about to appeal the ticket now.

    Thanks in Advance

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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Your image host is a nightmare!

    use 'tinypic' and just copy and paste the direct 'IMG code for forums --' in jpeg best.


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    from brief glimpse the permanent sign is non-prescribed - but not particularly relevant as bay was suspended.

    what are the temp signs saying? are you saying wrong dates?


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Sorry that you can't see the image, the pictures are taken from my phone in the dark (I got the ticket at 20:40 and I took the pictures at 21:00)

    Try these (hopefully you can see them when you click the pictures):






    The suspension says that the bays are suspended on 15th November (I think this is only the bays opposite)

    Its possible that the other sign relates to the space I was parked in, however I am not clear that I was parked in a Business bay.

    The notice states it is marked on the kerb - but I did not see any markings where I was parked.


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Ting View Post
    from brief glimpse the permanent sign is non-prescribed - but not particularly relevant as bay was suspended.

    what are the temp signs saying? are you saying wrong dates?
    I think (I am not sure) that I got a ticket for the suspension on the notice on the side of the road I was parked.

    This notice has 2 sets of dates on it,(1st Nov to 23rd Jan and just 15th Nov) I will try and go there in daylight and take the pictures again tomorrow when I am back in London.

    What do you mean the sign was non-prescribed? I was outside of the hours when parking is controlled in these bays.
    8:30am to 5:30 pm - Mon - Fri


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    The issue of the sign. If not specified in the regs then it's illegal. However, since the bay was apparently suspended and you were also outside of the restricted times then it is probably irrelevant.

    On the issue of images - nope, your host requires download and i ain't downloading anything from a forum no matter how good my security!
    just do as asked and use 'tinypic'.

    Any idea of the reason for suspension?
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    This notice has 2 sets of dates on it,(1st Nov to 23rd Jan and just 15th Nov)
    The 15th-15th (LH) says 08.30 hrs - 17.30 hrs daily.

    The 1st - 23rd (RH) says: at anytime


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    If these aren't better then I'll register and account with Tinypic -

    (I already have one with Photobucket)






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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Yeah much better (incidentally one advantage of tinypic is that you don't have to register)

    got the pcnicon?


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Ting View Post
    Yeah much better (incidentally one advantage of tinypic is that you don't have to register)

    got the pcnicon?

    Oh - I didn't know that!

    Will bear that in mind.

    The PCN is a PDF (thats what the scanner saves it as.

    ANy idea how I can embed it?


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    LOL I have to confess to being an IT numpty mate! Can your PC not convert it to jpeg?

    Can't really see second two pics either


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Oh - I just realised - MY camera phone has a document option and it's great!




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    whatever they say it's b***** confusing anyway!


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    Yeah need the rest of it.


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Here is where it was parked, not a suspension notice in sight!




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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    Here is the back of it...



    THe rest of the front is just a barcode..


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    rest of the pcnicon is what i need (although memory tells me TH are fullycompliant at the mo - still worth checking)

    that pic is useful though.

    2nd and 3rd pics of suspension notices? how far away?


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    ok, cross posted. Got the pcnicon now. Basically compliant. Just one possible issue - a bit arguable though. Does it say on there that a Notice to Owner may be served by the 'Enforcement authority' or 'Council' ? I'd argue it doesn't.

    - and 'will receive' is wrong. Should be 'may'.


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    Default Re: Unfair PCN - please help

    The first clearer picture is almost opposite where I was parked, maybe 5 meters further forward.

    The second one (unclear - 2 notices) was about 4 or 5 car spaces in front of where my car was parked.



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