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    Hi there all

    I have read most of the forums in regards to ukcps.
    My father most recently has been given a parking ticketicon of £75 due to not displaying disabled badges having parked on a disable spot in a so called private car park!
    My father is 62 and has disabled badges. He is a heart patient due to a heart attack some years ago and he doesn't stay that well! He also has a bad back and a weak memory as can be confirmed by his local GP.
    He is eligible to drive but does sometimes forget to display his blue badge.
    Now i wrote to them through one of the members of the council called EDITED explaining about my fathers condition as well as sending of photocopy's of the badges but in reply i got told that they have a strict disabled badge policy and that the least they can do is to allow my father to pay in 4 installments (20*3 and 15*1)!
    The letter looked very fake with no signatureicon at the bottom but just saying yours truly EDITED
    Now the doctors note was not sent to them but i did call them or shall i say "him" edited because he always answers the call and writes the letters......seems like a one man show!
    But he is very rude on the phone both to me and my sister and says even if you send us a doctors note i wouldn't consider it!!!

    I rang him myself and he sent me the evidence (photographs) which obviously confirmed what i already knew! Whenever you ring him the so called company it diverts to his mobile as sometimes it goes to the tmobileicon answer machine!

    Now just yesterday, 5-7 days after they wrote the first letter about paying in 4 installments, He has sent me another letter saying warning in bold letters and fancy borders and colours around it!
    Its seems as though he just got some fresh inc cartridge buy ripping somebody of with a parking ticket as his first letter was black and white and his second all colourful but this time no name at all at the bottom!

    It seems to me a cowboy company as there appeal procedure is that you must enclose the cheque with the appeal otherwise your appeal wont be considered! But when cllr EDITED wrote to them on my fathers behalf we didn't send any money with it and he still replied!

    Can anybody advice a.s.a.p on this matter because i have thought to get a solicitor and get him to write to them so that they may get scared but i don't know??? He is continuing to harass my father and i as i said before because he is not well he cant stand with these letters keep coming and pay for something that is not his fault!

    My father has badges and a doctors note to state his illnesses including a weak memory!
    Any suggestions?? advice? i will be very grateful or a form of letter i can send to them??

    cheers

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    Hi there all

    I have read most of the forums in regards to ukcps.
    My father most recently has been given a parking ticket of £75 due to not displaying disabled badges having parked on a disable spot in a so called private car park!
    My father is 62 and has disabled badges. He is a heart patient due to a heart attack some years ago and he doesn't stay that well! He also has a bad back and a weak memory as can be confirmed by his local GP.
    He is eligible to drive but does sometimes forget to display his blue badge.
    Now i wrote to them through one of the members of the council, explaining about my fathers condition as well as sending of photocopy's of the badges but in reply i got told that they have a strict disabled badge policy and that the least they can do is to allow my father to pay in 4 installments (20*3 and 15*1)!
    The letter looked very fake with no signature at the bottom but just saying yours truly ***EDITED***
    Now the doctors note was not sent to them but i did call them or shall i say "him" Edioted because he always answers the call and writes the letters......seems like a one man show!
    But he is very rude on the phone both to me and my sister and says even if you send us a doctors note i wouldn't consider it!!!

    I rang him myself and he sent me the evidence (photographs) which obviously confirmed what i already knew! Whenever you ring him the so called company it diverts to his mobile as sometimes it goes to the tmobile answer machine!

    Now just yesterday, 5-7 days after they wrote the first letter about paying in 4 installments, He has sent me another letter saying warning in bold letters and fancy borders and colours around it!
    Its seems as though he just got some fresh inc cartridge buy ripping somebody of with a parking ticket as his first letter was black and white and his second all colourful but this time no name at all at the bottom!

    It seems to me a cowboy company as there appeal procedure is that you must enclose the cheque with the appeal otherwise your appeal wont be considered! But when cllr Edited wrote to them on my fathers behalf we didn't send any money with it and he still replied!

    Can anybody advice a.s.a.p on this matter because i have thought to get a solicitor and get him to write to them so that they may get scared but i don't know??? He is continuing to harass my father and i as i said before because he is not well he cant stand with these letters keep coming and pay for something that is not his fault!

    My father has badges and a doctors note to state his illnesses including a weak memory!
    Any suggestions?? advice? i will be very grateful or a form of letter i can send to them??

    cheers

    Riz

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    Default Re: ukcps parking charge

    KING RIZZLER just ask the question in one thread as you will only confuse everyone and not get a consistant flow of info if you use multiple threads for the same problem.


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    additionally 2 threads merged-and your own thread created.
    Its not good to gatecrash other peoples threads.

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    ok crem so any ideas of my case?


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    It's a [problem]. There is no appeals process as you have discovered. It's a private company who will never turn down a chance to make a profit. Don't get into a dialogue with them - they won't back down. As you've found, they are a cowboy outfit.

    Disabled badges have no meaning on private property.

    • do not pay
    • do not contact them
    • ignore their threatening letters - they are just trying to scare you into paying. Hence they've broken out the red ink cartridge as you've found.

    If you ignore them they will go away. Ignore all their hollow threats about CCJs and debt collectorsicon. Court action is highly unlikely and they wouldn't win once they got there anyway.


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    thanks for the advice.

    But dont u rekon that this bull**** about adding £3 everyday will keep adding up and once it gets to a high amount then they might start considring court action?
    Hes already sent me a letter demanding £105 now!


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    No, because the figure is just something they've made up. It's purpose is to pressure you into paying because you are under the illusion that somehow your 'debt' is increasing as the days go by.

    They could happily make it £5 an hour or £5,000 a minute. But nobody would pay that because it's absurd. £3 a day is pitched to make most people pay up out of fear.


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    Quote Originally Posted by Al27 View Post
    They could happily make it £5 an hour or £5,000 a minute. But nobody would pay that because it's absurd. £3 a day is pitched to make most people pay up out of fear.
    Plus if they did go to court and win, the £3 per day additional charge would immediately be removed by the court as not being valid and at best they would be awarded 8% per annum on the original debt, which is something like 2p per day on a £100 original invoice.


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    lol but then again i would end up paying court for losing the case! that would be much more than the ticket itself of £75!

    so what do u rekon is it worth the risk? sorry for the hassle!


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    The risk is minimal of it ever going to court and even more minimal of them winning the case.

    Only you can decide whether to pay the [problem]mers or not but think about whether you would pay any Tom Dick or Harry turning up at your door for money or posting you a made up invoice.

    Your father has a blue badge and parked in a disabled bay (although disabled bay markings in a private car park have no legal standing anyway). Having said that, I am sure the magistrate would be sympathetic to the fact that your father has a blue badge, therefore didn't actually misuse the bay anyway.


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    magistrate ? why the heck would a magistrate get involved ? ?


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    I am sure the magistrate would be sympathetic to the fact that your father has a blue badge, therefore didn't actually misuse the bay anyway.
    How would a Magistrate ever be involved?


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    yes but they could look at both sides, my father does have a blue badge but forgot to display it due to his illnesses and weak memory, but the company have a so called strict rule for with disabled badges not being displayed and have evidence (photographs)!

    so its a case of my fathers word against his!


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    You're acting just like they want you to act. SCARED. That's the only advantage that they have. To lie to you in such a way that you pay up thinking all the bad things that may happen to you if you don't.

    Well it ain't going to happen. You know why?

    If you look beyond the lies to the real facts, and read a few of the more detailed threads (especially the ones at the very top of this forum marked sticky), you will quickly learn that these companies have absolutely no legal right to your money whatsoever.

    Instead of looking at the worst case scenario, start thinking of what you are going to do to stop these individuals. Be properly prepared so that even if they did, in the very unlikely event, issue court documents, you will be so well prepared in your defence that they won't even bother showing up.

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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    Quote Originally Posted by KING RIZZLER View Post
    but the company have a so called strict rule for with disabled badges not being displayed and have evidence (photographs)!

    so its a case of my fathers word against his!
    No.

    If you want to look at strict rules, then no private company can insist on the display of a Blue Badge as it is not provided by the State for this purpose. It is not for use on private car parks.

    You could write 'disabled' in 6 point font on a tiny piece of paper and display that to meet their "strict regulations"; they have no legal right to insist in a Blue Badge.

    Look at it another way. If I break a leg and have use use crutches for a few weeks, then I am not entitled to a Blue Badge. However, I am temporarily disabled by the injury and its consequences. So I can produce my own disabled badge for use on private car parks which has as much force as a Blue Badge


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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    but the company have a so called strict rule for with disabled badges not being displayed and have evidence (photographs)!
    I think you're forgetting that they have no legal right to the money anyway.


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    cheers lads for the advice, am confident now and ready to stand up and fight against these dicks!

    so shall i just keep ignoring their letters? Am sure there due to send me 1 out on wednesday! It maybe fully colour coded this time


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    Lets just say the chances of you having to go to Court are very remote-the demands may continue,but they have no statute,and therefore not legally enforceable.

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    Default Re: KING RIZZLER/ ukcps

    so shall i just keep ignoring their letters? Am sure there due to send me 1 out on wednesday! It maybe fully colour coded this time
    As you've contacted them already, you're somewhat of a hooked fish now. That just means they may pester you for longer because they know their letters are reaching someone who is prepared to act on them.

    The usual advice applies though - ignore them and they will go away eventually.


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    thanks martin.

    lets just wait and see what happens! Is anybody else in the same boat as me? still receiving letters from them??



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