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    Default firstplus ppi can I claim

    I took out a secured loan with firstplus on 17/5/07 it is in joint names for me and my husband. The amount of the loan being £58,500.00 + PPIicon loan of £14326.65 which I can claim back after 5 years, provided I have not made any claim and that I request the refund within 30 days of the 5 year date. The loan is for a period of 180 months. I now understand that I will be charged interesticon for the PPI for the whole term of the loan this was not made clear at the time it was taken out.
    I rang Firstplus yesterday for a setlement figure. I was told that this would be sent to me by post within 7 days. I enquired as to how much is currently outstanding on my loan £69246.68 was quoted but they pointed out this is not the settlement figure.
    I enquired as to whether it is possible to move the PPI to a loan with another company but was told it was only relevant for this loan. I would like to know if this is correct.
    I would also like to know if I can reclaim the PPI as I believe it was misold to me. It was put to me that it was like a savings plan pay for 5 years then get it back.
    My employer pays me full pay for 6 months when off sickicon then half pay for 6 months then pensionable pay thereafter. My husbands employer doesn't offer this but I am the main wage earner. Any comments will be greatly received as no doubt like most people in this situation the reason for the loan was to sort out debts in the first place and it has just made things worse.

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Does the PPIicon cover the loan for the full 180 months?

    Regardless of this if you were not made aware of the full facts of the loan you may have a case of mis selling so I would send the letter immediatly.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    I have all of the paper work so I will check and I will also send the letter. I want to carry on with the loan without PPIicon though or take it to another company on a lower interesticon rate.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Quote Originally Posted by varda View Post
    I have all of the paper work so I will check and I will also send the letter. I want to carry on with the loan without PPIicon though or take it to another company on a lower interesticon rate.
    Hello Varda,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Please be mindful that even if they give you back the ppi premium, they will have made a lot of profit on the interest they charged you

    Can you post up your figures for us to have a look at please before you send any letters

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    If you can win the mis selling they should remove the PPIicon and repay all the money you have already paid towards the ppi plus interesticon.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Yes when you go after them for mis-selling, your claim will be for the PPIicon premium, the interesticon they added to it.

    The total amount will then attract either contractual interest, the rate of interest they applied to the loan. Or the statuatory interest the court of fosicon would allow.

    Your figure please so we may assist you

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    The figures on my loan agrrement are as follows:
    Cash Loan PPIicon Loan Total
    Amont or Credit £58500.00 £14326.65 £72826.65

    Monthly pymts
    variable £547.90 £134.18 £682.08

    180 monthly payments
    APR7.9% variable

    PPI Policy is for a period of 5 years after which £14326.65 can be recalimed within 30 days. The insured term is 60 months cover then ends.
    Is this enough information?


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Did they tell you it was only 5 years but that you would be paying interesticon on it for the full term ?

    Also did First plus sell the loan to you or was there a broker involved?


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    There was no broker involved. They only told me that I could get a refund of £14326.65 after 5 years they did not point out that the cover would then cease nor did they telll me that the PPIicon would be added to loan and that I would be charged interesticon on it full the full term of the loan.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Then you have a very good case, was this sold on the phone?


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    Question Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Yes it was, do you think I should start to reclaim?


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Yes I do.
    also have you sent an SARicon request so that they have to send you all the information that they have relating to your account including telephone callsicon ?
    You may be lucky and they hold their hands up to it(!) But if not if you can get the phone recordings/transcripts then they will help your claim if you have to go to the fosicon.

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    I have prepared my SARicon'S letter & will post it off today. I take it I will then have to wait for 40 days for their response and then send off a prelim letter requesting a refund. Is this correct? Thanks for the help.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Hi Varda

    Yes, 40 days in the statutory maximum length of time allowed to the lender within the Data Protection Act 1998 to provide you with all information that they hold on you, the data subject, for all accounts that you hold or have held with them.

    Enclose a cheque for £10 which is the maximum amount that is chargeable for provision of this information, and send your SARicon by first class signed for delivery so that you can track its progress on the Royal Mail website. Don't forget to take a copy of your signed letter for your records and to make a note in your diary of when the 40 days is up.

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    I received a settlement quotation from Firstplus this morning figures show as follows:
    Total payable under the agreement £111290.85
    Less our rebate on early settlement -£44279.67
    Plus administration charge £150.00
    Total amount payable by you to settle, as at 2/12/08 £67161.18

    There was a nice polite letter explaining that under most circumstances the loan is portable so if you are moving house it doesn't mean you'll have to repay the loan.
    I have posted off the SARicon'S but just wanted to know if I should cancel the PPIicon now and continue paying, but money is a bit tight for me at the moment could do with not paying it. Which is the best way to approach please.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Quote Originally Posted by varda View Post
    There was no broker involved. They only told me that I could get a refund of £14326.65 after 5 years they did not point out that the cover would then cease nor did they telll me that the PPIicon would be added to loan and that I would be charged interesticon on it full the full term of the loan.
    You state here the key points of your case for mis-selling ...
    Quote Originally Posted by varda View Post
    I received a settlement quotation from Firstplus this morning figures show as follows:
    Total payable under the agreement £111290.85
    Less our rebate on early settlement -£44279.67
    Plus administration charge £150.00
    Total amount payable by you to settle, as at 2/12/08 £67161.18

    There was a nice polite letter explaining that under most circumstances the loan is portable so if you are moving house it doesn't mean you'll have to repay the loan.
    I have posted off the S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon)'S but just wanted to know if I should cancel the PPI now and continue paying, but money is a bit tight for me at the moment could do with not paying it. Which is the best way to approach please.
    I am still of the opinion that you have a very good case for mis-selling here as you have been mis-led, mis-informed and the lender has taken advantage of your lack of knowledge to sell you a product which, had you been armed with the full facts and true cost to you, you most likely would not have chosen to purchase.

    My personal feeling is that you should pursue the claim, ie, that you are requesting the true cost of this product; all the payments made plus the interest added on top, and not go for the refund.

    I imagine that if you were to accept the refund, the interest would still be charged for the duration of the loan ... this happened to me when I requested all the PPI back but the lender decided otherwise and I'm pursuing them for the full amount in my mis-selling claim. Offering you a partial refund would mean that the lender is still making a profit from you when you really could be getting the whole lot back via the fosicon or the courts.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Can anyone tell me is it worth sending a letter to Firstplus now
    requesting a full refund of all premiums, and subsequent interesticon on these payments, that I have paid to date. As I believe I have been deprived of this money I also expect contractual interest.
    I have sent my SARS letter but thought it would get things moving a bit quicker if I send a letter to them now. I could then add anything gained from the SARS information when I send lbaicon if they fail to refund on the first letter.
    What is the best way forward as the loan is still outstanding and paid up to date although it's a struggle.
    Sorry to sound a bit stupid but I just want to get it all in the correct order.




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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    I think it would be prudent to wait for the SARicon response, it makes it look at least as if you're considering the situation.

    They responded to my SARicon pretty quickly, in a coupel of weeks.

    They must be making a fortune in SAR tenners! Maybe not enough to pay Carol Voldemort, but plenty.


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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Quote Originally Posted by varda View Post
    Can anyone tell me is it worth sending a letter to Firstplus now
    requesting a full refund of all premiums, and subsequent interest on these payments, that I have paid to date. As I believe I have been deprived of this money I also expect contractual interest.
    I have sent my SARS letter but thought it would get things moving a bit quicker if I send a letter to them now. I could then add anything gained from the SARS information when I send LBA if they fail to refund on the first letter.
    What is the best way forward as the loan is still outstanding and paid up to date although it's a struggle.
    Sorry to sound a bit stupid but I just want to get it all in the correct order.
    Hello Varda

    Bob is quite right in pointing out that you should wait until the statutory 40 day period has elapsed before doing anything. I hadn't realised that you were trying to jump the gun when I replied above I appreciate that money is tight, but it really is best to follow the right process to get the result you want.

    You must follow the process of letters as you need to allow the lender sufficient time to investigate your complaint and make their response. If you were to escalate your complaint to the fosicon or the courts, you will need to demonstate that you are a reasonable person and have followed the correct procedure and allowed the defendant time to investigate and provide evidence to counter your claim.

    Please read this Bank templates library from the front page of this site. The process of letters and timescales is as follows:
    1. SARicon with 40 days;
    2. Preliminary Request for Payment with 14 days;
    3. letter before actionicon with 7 days (or 14 if you prefer this).

    Quote Originally Posted by bobthequiz View Post
    I think it would be prudent to wait for the S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) response, it makes it look at least as if you're considering the situation.

    They responded to my SAR pretty quickly, in a coupel of weeks.

    They must be making a fortune in SAR tenners! Maybe not enough to pay Carol Voldemort, but plenty.
    Absolutely!!

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    Default Re: firstplus ppi can I claim

    Thanks for the advice I will follow your recommendation.



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