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    Default Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    I took Bcard to court in the summer for £250 with regards to Penalty charges they returned £200.

    The claim went to court via Money Online and it was stayed by the district court judge stating that my claim against Barclaysicon Bank was covered by current litigation.

    My claim clearly stated Barclaycard however the judge has sided with "Barclays Bank"

    After appealing by letter twice to the judge and being refused I will have to apply now via an N1.

    Can anyone out there suggest any alternative strategy ??

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi TP and welcome to the BC forum.

    We've been advising against using MCOL for some time now and this is one of the reasons.

    I would have suggested writing to the court but, as you've already done this, it may continue to fall on deaf ears. However, try this letter, suitably adapted to reflect your own case - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...edit-card.html

    The judge is clearly wrong to Stay the case as the OFT Test Case has no bearing whatsoever on Credit Card charges. The OFT have already ruled on CC chgs and the issues are clear - they are penalty chgs and, as such, have no lawful basis.

    Was your claim just for chgs and s.69 Statutory interesticon, or for charges and interest at the Contractual Rate.

    If it is just the former, I'm surprised you've had to file a claim at all as BC are happily refunding chgs without court action.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Barclaycard are also using deception by trying to get their cases stayed passing their credit card charges off as bank charges. Throw their deceptive ways into your claim too.


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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Thanks

    I will use the letter for the basis of my N1

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi TP,

    If you start a new N1 Claim, you'll lose any fee paid to court so far.

    This is v annoying as the judge is categorically wrong about this.

    I asked before if you were just reclaiming penalty charges, or are you claiming Contractual interesticon on top.

    If the former, you should need to issue any court proceedings at all as BC will repay before you need to file your claim.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi Slick132

    I ment to answer your point previously I claimed just for penalty charges and s69 interesticon.

    What action should I take if not an N1 ?


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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi TP,

    My advice is to either :-

    1) Send the linked letter to MCOL and state categorically that a credit card case against any bank should proceed without a stay.

    OR

    2) Start afresh by sending BC an updated SOC (which includes any recent charges) with a new Prelim Letter - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...RD-letter.html Don't print the Int't column on the SOC until you file your claim at court.

    Follow this with an lbaicon after 14 days. BC should refund without you needing to file again.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi there,

    Can you tell me if I should go back to court and ask for the case to have its stay removed or should I begin a new claim

    I have forwarded an lbaicon and have not received a reply from BC

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Hi TP,

    If you didn't do so at the time, write to the court using the objection letter now. Give the court 14 days to sort it and then chase it up.

    I assume BC have not replied because they realise the first claim is still Stayed.

    Let us know what happens.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    DEar All

    I have contacted the court with the chase up letter and they are keeping firm with regards the Stay being kept on the case.

    So will I have to undertake a request for the Stay to be lifted by an N1 and pay the £75. ?

    May I add an extension to the claim with regards the deception by BC of relating Bank charges to cc charges and what are reasonable damages for this sitution, £100, £200 £500?

    Thanks TP


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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    I'd say no, because BC are not responsible for this - it is the court's fault.

    I'll flag this up to see if anyone has any further ideas for getting your case unStayed.

    Personally, I'd now start from scratch with a new Prelim Letter and updated SOC, followed by an lbaicon. This will cost nothing and it needs doing before you start fresh proceedings at your local court using a form N1.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    You cant simply discontinue a claim and start another relating to the same account-you would need permission from the Courts.
    The way to do it is to fill out an N244icon.

    You are at liberty to apply to have the stay lifted.
    The grounds I would use (and did use in my own )
    are that the OFT test case is in relation to Current account bank charges.
    You should state that the Office of Fair trading have already investigated and ruled as unfair,credit card charges in 2006.
    In your application to lift the stay,you can furnish evidence to support this including (but not limited to)
    The OFT report published after the investigation.
    Whether your application is successful or not can depend on the Judge on the day.Im afraid its hit and miss unfortunately.
    The downside of Mycol has already been explained,but one such dissadvantage is that applications are decided on the Courts own motion with no possibility of a hearing-although nothing to stop you asking for your case to be transferred to your local Court to hear your stay application.
    But you have a reasonable chance of being successful providing that your application is clear and argues the case.There will be a charge for this since you have to do it on notice,but it will be claimable with your other costs.

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    Default Re: Barclayard - Using Barclays Bank Name to have claims Stayed!

    Martin & Slick,

    Thank you for the excellent replies I will now complete an N244icon.

    May I ask if there are any examples of a completed N244 on site

    Thanks


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    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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