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    Default GE Woodchester PPI

    Hi all,

    Have just been scanning over a cca I have with GE Woodchester after agreeing to lower payments as things have gone belly up this year for us. To my shock & horror I found that I have been paying £43 a month PPIicon for the past 34 months (ppi box on the cca is printed a 'tick' and not by hand and I, for the life of me cannot agreeing to this as I am classed as self employed and wouldn't (and am not) covered for unemployment as I subcontract to several customers so would not become 'fully unemployed'.

    Would this be classed as being mis-sold a ppi policy for which I can claim back payments made?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Hello beachcomber,

    welcome to the PPIicon forum

    Have just been scanning over a cca I have with GE Woodchester after agreeing to lower payments as things have gone belly up this year for us. To my shock & horror I found that I have been paying £43 a month PPI for the past 34 months (ppi box on the cca is printed a 'tick' and not by hand and I, for the life of me cannot agreeing to this as I am classed as self employed and wouldn't (and am not) covered for unemployment as I subcontract to several customers so would not become 'fully unemployed'.

    Would this be classed as being mis-sold a ppi policy for which I can claim back payments made?

    Thanks in advance.
    I would say you have a case to complain for Mis-sold PPI however you will need to send off a Subject access requesticon to GE with a statutory fee of £10.00. Postal order will be fine but keep the counterfoil. make a note of the date sent and send it recorded delivery. Keep an eye on it through Royal Mail track and trace to ensure you have proof of delivery..

    Here are a few links from the links in stickies to get your started.

    For claims before 2005 and the FSA ruling from which campaign
    How to tell if you’ve been mis-sold PPI
    Quick check: were you mis-sold? - How to tell if you’ve been mis-sold PPI


    for the SAR...

    Full S.A.R - (Subject access request) for ppi

    This is to find information on GE woodchester Just type in the details in the firms name box and hit submit and away you go..

    FSA Register


    and to get the information on the data controller of the firm use this link and use the search option...

    Register of Data Controllers & their roles - Information Commissioner's Office - Information Commissioners Office

    Hopefully this will help to get you the information to start your reclaim and Good Luck

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Alanalana, Thanks for the reply, after checking the 'Which' link I am sending off a copy of the sample letter, asking for refund of premiums paid (about £2,000 + interesticon) as I was clearly mis sold the PPIicon, well fingers crossed.


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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Quote Originally Posted by beachcomber60 View Post
    Alanalana, Thanks for the reply, after checking the 'Which' link I am sending off a copy of the sample letter, asking for refund of premiums paid (about £2,000 + interesticon) as I was clearly mis sold the PPIicon, well fingers crossed.
    Good luck to you and keep us posted:grin:

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Before I start, is GE Woodchester the same as GEMoney for a BHS Gold Card, (store card) ????


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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Thanks for your reply. Woodchester are part of the GE empire, my account with them is for an unsecure personal loan.


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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Major development, while waiting for my cca/S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) to come through I did a search for the paperwork that I have.

    What a beauty - the loan was arranged over the phone inc. bank DD, they sent me the paperwork to sign and return - I found the paperwork today all three copies of the agreement their orginal, 2nd copy and my copy all of which are unsigned and undated by them or me - must have forgot to send it back to them and was never reminded.

    OH HECK - WHAT TO DO NOW?


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    Hello beachy,

    Major development, while waiting for my cca/S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) to come through I did a search for the paperwork that I have.
    What a beauty - the loan was arranged over the phone inc. bank DD, they sent me the paperwork to sign and return - I found the paperwork today all three copies of the agreement their orginal, 2nd copy and my copy all of which are unsigned and undated by them or me - must have forgot to send it back to them and was never reminded.

    OH HECK - WHAT TO DO NOW? Get your money back
    Send a letter asking them to provide you with a true copy of the CCA as signed by you. You will need to cite sections 77/78 of the Consumer Credit Agreement 1974 to see what they come up with and you will need to send a £1.00 Satutory fee to get this information. They then have 14 days to produce a true copy of the document to you if they fail you can put the whole agreement into dispute and stop paying them. If they then fail to produce the document within 30 days they are breaking the law so they then cannot insist on payments or insist on a Court ruling to enforce any payments. I do not have immediately to hand all the legal stuff on this but it is available if you ask. Some banana will post up the relevant Statutes for you.

    Hope you can use this info.

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Thanks for that.

    There won't be a 'true signed copy of the cca', as I mentioned I found all three copies which were sent to me for signing but got put to one side and never signed and returned to them, also found last night was a letter welcoming me to GE and my 'copy' of the cca - again unsigned by either me or them, received about ten days after the loan started.

    As the agreement was never signed, by both parties, does this make reclaiming PPIicon stronger or weaker?


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    Thanks for that.

    There won't be a 'true signed copy of the cca', as I mentioned I found all three copies which were sent to me for signing but got put to one side and never signed and returned to them, also found last night was a letter welcoming me to GE and my 'copy' of the cca - again unsigned by either me or them, received about ten days after the loan started.

    As the agreement was never signed, by both parties, does this make reclaiming PPIicon stronger or weaker?
    If they cannot produce a signed copy then I believe the loan can be disputed. I would ask for further advice on this though.

    If your copy of the agreement shows PPI as single premium with interesticon added but you did not accept it or sign for it then you can claim it back.
    I assume you are still making payments?

    I would definately ask them to refund your PPI premiums plus the interest.

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Thanks AA,

    Yes I have a payment plan with them at the moment due to change in circumstances.

    If I can get the PPIicon refunded it'll reduce the balance to about £2k (excluding any interesticon that I can claw back - not sure on how to work out loss of interest on the ppi payments).

    Just been promised brekkie at Tescos so away from PC now.

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    Good luck Beachcomber. Tis lot think they can do and say what they want. I have my own thread but I'm currently at the stage where I'm sending details of the wifes store card off to the fosicon. I need to see what their take is on the fact that they I have a CCA that indicate no PPIicon yet they have been taking it. Not to sure that the FOS will agree with the 'it was aked for on the phone but we have no record of it' that they are trying to palm me off with.


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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Have found out that the insurance cover on this agreement is Credit Protection Insurance not PPIicon (is this the same?)

    Also premiums are added monthly, no mention any where about single premium being added, does this change things regarding claiming back premiums paid.

    As always, thanks


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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Hello beachy,

    Have found out that the insurance cover on this agreement is Credit Protection Insurance not PPIicon (is this the same?) Yes For CPI read PPI.

    Also premiums are added monthly, no mention any where about single premium being added, does this change things regarding claiming back premiums paid. Unable to answer this without a preview of your CCA? Can you scan cut out the personal bits in paintshop ie names addressess account numbers sort codes etc and stick it into photobucket so we can have a look. I ask this because although the premiums may be payable monthly it may not necessarily mean they are added monthly. If you have a single premium it is added on to the cost of the loan and then interesticon is added but you will pay a monthly figure depending upon the period of the loan ie 24 months 60 months etc.

    As always, thanks
    Hope this is of use

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    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Thanks AA,




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    As I said previously no signatures from either party & computer 'tick' in the PPIicon box

    Thanks for looking
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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    beachcomber60

    If you use the search facility - centre top of page - you will fnd there are plenty of threads concerning CCA requests.

    Essentially, this is where you pay, as I recall, £1 for the loan provider to supply you with a copy of your credit agreement. If they are unable to do so or if the credit agreement fails to meet the legal requirements - one of which is that it is signed by both parties - then it is unenforceable.

    If that's the case then it won't just reduce he balance to 2k, it will leave GE with little or no option but to write it off. At the same time, it should strengthen your claim for the mis-sold PPIicon, and interesticon, you have already paid.

    I don't profess to be an expert on this but, I'm fairly certain, if you pursue this with someone who is they will tell you much the same.

    Good luck!
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    Default Re: GE Woodchester PPI

    Thanks Fred,

    Posted cca for AA to have a scanny over it, unable to see if PPIicon was added in lump sum or premiums are just added monthly.

    take your point re CCA, as posted above, I have all three copies 1) Original, 2) Lenders 2nd copy & 3) Customers copy which weresent for signing however they were put to one said and forgot about, never received any reminder to send them back.

    Are you saying its possible to have it written off AND reclaim PPI?

    Only realized it when I started PPI reclaim.

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