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    Default Woodwa5 & Natwest PPI

    Hello,
    a couple of quick questions. i have been looking back over previous loans I have paid off and came across a Natwesticon loan from 2001 with something called Personal Laon Protector (PLP) insurance on it. I would never have requested something like this as in my line of work I could never have benefited.

    My questions are:
    Is it the same as a PPIicon
    Can i still claim even though it's over 7 years ago,

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    Default Re: Woodwa5 & Natwest PPI

    Yup it is the same thing! I'm having a battle with Natwesticon at the mo so get ready to get the gloves on as they are useless!!!

    I think you can still claim after 7 years.

    Have you requested a SARicon?? £10 and they have to send you all the documentation they hold on you. Including the credit agreement.

    It takes a bit of time but its worth a try!

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    Thank you,

    I have got all the original paperwork will i still need to S.A.R?


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    Default Re: Woodwa5 & Natwest PPI

    As Karen says, it is payment protection insurance and Natwesticon have obviously added it to your account without your knowledge or consent. Very bad practice and I'd like to see them justify such an action in court.

    In your S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) you can request a true copy of the application form as signed by you, a true copy of the Credit Agreement, a transcript of the sales conversation if it took place over the telephone and all statements relating to all payments made on the account.

    Even if you had discussed the PPIicon product with the NatWest loan person, they were still obliged to provide with sufficient info to help you make an informed decision as to whether the product suited your personal circumstances, the costs to you with or without the product, and the availability of other similar PPI from other sources.

    Even though your loan dates back to 2001, the FSA still provided regulations and guidelines to all lenders which they are legally obliged to adhere to. We can go into this further later on down the line when NatWest have replied to your SARicon.

    Check this out from the site's ConsumerWiki: PPI It will help you pinpoint exactly which arguments for mis-selling you will use if and when you make your complaint and preliminary request for payment.





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    Default Re: Woodwa5 & Natwest PPI

    Hello woodwa,

    You can do a search for Natwesticon in the FSA register this is the link...........

    FSA Register

    When the link is open just type natwest in the firm name box and submit all the info will come up on natwest. If is natwest bank plc you can hit the red links on the left and it will give you details of when the company were authorised. If they were authorised before the date of your agreement I reckon you have a good claim on your Mis-sold PPIicon and if not the fosicon would probably look at your claim if you go down the FOS route. You do have the Court option as Paintball has pointed out.

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    Thank you ever so much. I did as you suggested and the date is 12/01 which is after I took out the loan. I think this is going to be a long fight but that has never put me off in the past.


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    well i wasn't wrong in my last post. I feel I am no nearer a resolution. I have the original signed agreements which i found after beeing mucked around by Natwesticon for months. I sent an S.A.R stating the usual including asking for details on any PPIicon (which i know to have been added to both loans). I have just received the following reply:

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX

    I refer to your recent letter regarding a complete list of transactions and charges applied to the above accounts under the Data Protection Act 1988.

    I confirm that the accounts were opened for internal bank use only and were used solely to hold funds on your behalf prior to the drawdown of your loan. As this was not a customer product charges did not accrue and were not payable on the accounts. Please therefore find enclosed a cheque for £10 in refund of the postal order received.

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX

    I only want the PPI details. I have the original credit agreements with the PPI added as a lump sum however i have no idea when they were paid off (both have been). So what should my response be, they are obviously taking the p**s,

    Woodwa5


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    Quote Originally Posted by woodwa5 View Post
    well i wasn't wrong in my last post. I feel I am no nearer a resolution. I have the original signed agreements which i found after beeing mucked around by Natwesticon for months. I sent an S.A.R stating the usual including asking for details on any PPIicon (which i know to have been added to both loans). I have just received the following reply:

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX

    I refer to your recent letter regarding a complete list of transactions and charges applied to the above accounts under the Data Protection Act 1988.

    I confirm that the accounts were opened for internal bank use only and were used solely to hold funds on your behalf prior to the drawdown of your loan. As this was not a customer product charges did not accrue and were not payable on the accounts. Please therefore find enclosed a cheque for £10 in refund of the postal order received.


    I would seek clarification on this statement how the heck can accounts be opened for internal bank use only? especially as they purport to be used solely to hold funds on your behalf If they are accounts holding funds on your behalf then you should be entitled to the data on those funds or loans and therefore their refusal to supply information is in contravention of the Data Protection Act 1998.


    I only want the PPI details. I have the original credit agreements with the PPI added as a lump sum however i have no idea when they were paid off (both have been). So what should my response be, they are obviously taking the p**s,

    Woodwa5
    Firstly submit a formal complaint to the Information Commissioners Office......Link here.....

    For the Information Commissioners office. (this is an option if the DSAR is not complied with)
    http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documen...ess_rights.pdf

    Information Commissioner's Office - Information Commissioners Office

    http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documen...lain_final.pdf

    Complaints - Information Commissioners Office

    Your reply should then be a formal complaint to the Financial Ombudsmanicon Service. Phone them and get a complaint reference number. They will start to fill in a complaint form and send it to you to complete and sign, Then send off the complaint form with copies of all correspondence between you and Natwest every little snippet of mail both ways.

    Links that may help with your claim for Mis-sold PPI
    Financial Ombudsman Service

    http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.u...-insurance.pdf

    If natwest have sent back the £10 fee it would indicate they are very reluctant to release any data on you and legally you are entitled to this data. Hence the need to let the Information Commissioners Office know what is happening.


    Time to make an issue on this with natwest.

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    Halifax - Full settlement incl interest.
    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
    RBS - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 70% of claim.
    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
    PPI Successes
    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
    2 claims settled in full with LV without FOS involvement.
    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

    PPI Claims ongoing with:
    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
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    ***RBS PPI Claim Long fight but, WON***

    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Default Re: Woodwa5 & Natwest PPI

    Thanks, I am gonna start on this over the next few days. I'm always up for a fight and it certainly would appear that they have something to hide



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