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Am looking for some help with a pcn that I received in Kensington & Chelsea.
I had displayed a pay and display. However, on telephoning the Council, they informed me that I was parked in a residents' only bay.
On returning this weekend to take some pictures, I discovered that the pay and display bays were adjoining and that I was parked in the first of the residents' only bay.
A = Sign indicating it was a residents' only bay (which I did not see at the time as it was too far up the road)
B = My car
C = A sign indicating that the parking was "Pay at Meter, Display ticket, Max stay 4 hours"
D = parking meter (which I did see and used).
Any advice on grounds/chances for appeal greatly appreciated.
like i said,need to see everything. Sorry but descriptions don't do it for me. might be more wrong with the sign and road markings and pcn.
Meter? How can you pay at a meter and display a ticket. A meter is a meter and a machine is a machine!
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I can show you what the sign should look like but i won't until i see yours because i have no idea which one they've used until i see it - various possibilities but none is supposed to say 'meter'.
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I can't work out how to attach the photo but you should be able to see it here: [EDIT]
Thanks
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Just to add some weight, there is the possibility that the road markings are also flawed. Were they individual spaces or a bay for several cars? If the latter then rubbish again. Detailed drawings via the 'Robert Harper' thread.
Would still like to see the pcn but I think I recall that K&C are fully compliant at the moment.
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from the photo it looks like sign is in the A part (where you parked) and directs you to the right to the meter. Signs have to be clear, in my view this isn't (even if it was compliant). How far away is the 'residents' sign at A ? and are you sure there are non closer ? I would fight this one.
Thanks Ting. I cannot remember for sure how the bay is set out in terms of markings. I have found your link on the other thread, and will take another look one night this week.
Just got a letter from RBKC refusing my challenge. It seemed to be a standard letter that hadn't taken any of my points into consideration. Is this normal?
where was this (i.e. which street)? I live in Chelsea, and I'd quite like to look at those signs/markings myself. BTW, I have quite a good track record in getting fines overturned -- so far, four ECNs and three PCNs cancelled, with one pcn paid, and one still pending. All those PCNs have been in Westminster though ... and only one was agreed on the first appeal; all the others have taken two or more iterations before being cancelled.
It was on Whitehead Grove. I went back there a few weeks ago and they have moved the sign, which would suggest I was right all along. We haven't heard anything furher since our appeal was refused and that was over 2 months ago so I'm hoping they have seen sense and backed down. Cheers.
Adjoining residents'/pay and display
that I received in Kensington & Chelsea.
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