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    Default Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!



    Can someone please tell me if HCEO have any rights here...

    I have received a SARicon and on this is states that a levyicon has been made. (They have never gained access into my property). I have never signed a thing either. The levyicon was made against the car.

    The car was on my driveway, out of MOT and Tax, i was waiting to scrap it. I soon made sure the car i was actually driving was no longer in my name.

    I have since scrapped that car now.

    Wrong or right, i dont care !

    Do they have a right to take anything else from my property other than that car ?

    I have received a "Notice to remove goods" because i am no longer paying them. I have had it with them, the overall debt was £3000 after all the stuff added. (original debt £1800) I have since paid £2400 and according to them i still ow £2000.... they can sing

    Can you help please ? Thank you

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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    The levyicon on the car on the car was legal but they cannot then go and claim other goods unless they gain another WPO.

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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Thanx fx,

    How would they get another ?

    Do you know of any reason why the solicitor to the creditor would not be able to give me the information on how much of the money that has been paid, they have received ? .. they wont tell me. They keep telling me i have to deal with the bailifficon.... I do not wish to as the £1800 debt now stands at a £4000 which is ludicrous.

    Thank you


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    The statutory fee scale for HCEO's is se by law and the key is was is "reasonable" .......the fees charged here are nothing of the sort. There are serious failings in the complaints system for this type of enforcement and I am aware that approaches are currently being made to ask questions on this in the House of Commons.


    Which company is this?

    If they have levied upon this car then let them remove it as it would be VERY interesting indeed what fees they would then charge.

    The HCEO can only come into your home by peaceful means so if this is the ONLY goods that he can levyicon on outside I would be tempted to write to them to advise them to remove the goods (car) that they have levied upon but that you will NOT allow them into the home and I would tell the solicitor that because of the excessive fees there is now no possibility at all of paying his debt.

    You may just find him wanting to negotiate.

    Finally, have you considering completing an N244icon to have the warrant cancelled and the debt returned back to the county courticon.


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Thank you Tomtubby, I'm glad you have picked up on this thread !

    I have managed to speak with the solicitor to the creditor now and they have informed me that they have only received £1000 from the £2500 i have paid. Sherforce have so far had £1500 for one visit and no van in attendance??? the car has been scrapped now that they levyicon-ed on. (because the car was registered to my previous address they went to that address also on 15/5/07 even though the first payment was made on 5/4/07... then guess, they charged me for it

    I do still have a car on the driveway belonging to my son.... he said it was ok for them to take it and he would make sure he reported it to the police as theft if they did take it! (it is registered to my son )

    I am unsure where to go from here because i absolutely refuse to pay a Penney more to them sc*m bags, i would rather risk loosing my stuff.

    The advantage is the warrant has expired now as the debt is over 12mths old. They simply have a "run on" to collect.I have confirmed this with the solicitor.

    Sherforce say i still ow them £2000 after already paying £2500.
    It means i would still ow a minimum of £800 to the creditor if that's the case. Even the SARicon does not really show the fees i have incurred, it does state some, 1st visit EO fee... £150... this was dated 30/03/07... they actually visited 1st on 4/4/07 ?? i spoke with him direct on the driveway wen he left me all the paperwork relating to all this.
    adminicon,service fees and general charges added but does not state how much. The SARicon clearly states they do not have a WPA and not signed.

    They seem to charge most things to HCEO regulation part c fee 12 and have charged me for WP fee, and valuation fees. Charges have been made for DVLA & HPI search... unknown amounts.

    Any suggestions where i can go from here !!

    Thanx


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Hi, anyone ?

    I forgot to mention too, do i need some kind of paperwork that shows the levyicon on the car ? i have never received a thing.

    In over a year i have never had one letter from them except replies to the SARicon requested and a Breakdownicon of fees. I was only ever given the copy of the paperwork from the court showing the judgment order and their fees of £750. A thousand pound more has been added since the first visit !


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Hello, can anyone help please ? i am aware HCEO`s can not attend my property on a Sunday but tomorrow is another day !

    The main question is... how do i stand wen this is just a "run on to collect ? " is the warrent still valid ?


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Please anyone ?


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    I'm not in any position to help but it seems that all your questions have been answered either directly or indirectly.

    Have you followed tomtubby's advice in post #4?

    I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.
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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Thanks palomino, i get what your saying. SORRY !

    But is the warrant valid if they only have a run on to collect ? Is it all the same prossecess ? do the baillifs still have the same rights ? (not much i know)

    I have so many questions !

    Can i do this N244icon if its past 12 months ? The solicitor to the creditor wont except direct payment.


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    I don't know what a 'run on to collect' is.

    Can't help with the other questions either. I think we need tomtubby to the rescue here!

    I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.
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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Thanx Palomino !!

    Im not a nagg really !

    Tomtubby... i cant go any further untill i know the answer to the "above question"

    Waiting quietly for your expert advice !!!!!


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Any one else that could help me on the question i have asked ?

    Thanx


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    please ?


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    File this form :
    http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/c...rms/n244_e.pdf

    With the court. It should cost you £35.00 might be more or less. However as soon as this is in all enforcement action will be suspended. You must however make sure that what you are going to do is watertight. Until this goes back to the county courticon and or you pay this off. I wouldnt even think of saying anything to sherforce.

    I hate bailiffs. Let me know if you have had a problem with them. I am sure i could upset them.

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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Thanx

    I will do the N244icon, but does it change anything because the warrant is over 12 months old and they only have a run on to collect ?


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Hi

    Did you find anything further regarding your situation? I am in the same boat where marstonsicon Group have added over £1749 worth of fees and the solicitor of the creditor states I have to deal direct.
    My warrant is over 12 months as well.


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

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    Thanx

    I will do the N244icon, but does it change anything because the warrant is over 12 months old and they only have a run on to collect ?

    Yes max it can, but as has already been said it depends on what you are saying and offering to the court


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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    We still haven't found out what a 'run on to collect' is. Since there have been no answers to this question I can only assume no-one here knows.

    I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.
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    Default Re: Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!

    Could you give some advice on the situation regarding the N244icon? If this is filed and I get the warrant suspended as I did not file a defence to the original county courticon action (agreed repayment planicon with the creditors solicitor, who then requested a judgement by default), do the fees added by the bailifficon get cancelled as well?
    The original debt was £2200 and I have paid £1734. The creditors solicitor has received £1200 and marstonsicon and stating the balance is still £2400!



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