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    Default What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by clue badge holders?

    the simple answer is yes. but it is more complicated than that so it may be a no in this case. need details of the issue, location (town or city name), details of the parking, time line, name of council, stuff like that.


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by clue badge holders?

    To clamp or remove a disabled persons car to a pound is not only against the guidelines but also a breach of their human rights & therefore unlawful

    They can however remove it to an easy disability accessible adjacent location where it is not causing on obstruction

    But then we are talking about an industry which gives not one jot for the rules or regulation accept were it favours them of course


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    This is a theoretical question.

    We often get disabled clients who receive PCNs and then subsequently have bailiffsicon chase them.

    Chris; what guidelines?


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    Quote Originally Posted by sequenci View Post
    This is a theoretical question.

    We often get disabled clients who receive PCNs and then subsequently have bailiffsicon chase them.

    Chris; what guidelines?
    I believe the Guidance quoted refers to the towing of vehicles while actually in contravention. In your 'theoretical' situation I believe it is different. i.e. if someone has failed to pay/challenge a pcnicon or has been rejected then it's an entirely different situation. Not sure of the answer though.

    There is actually a case on here at the moment. I'll try and find it when I get a minute.
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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    Just to add to this it would appear disabled drivers are well covered by legislation.

    It is also a breach of PSI Regulations to clamp/immobilise/remove a vehicle on private land under the 2007 PSI regulations.
    The Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Licences) Regulations 2007 No. 810

    It would appear the reality is somewhat different.

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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    The towing, clamping or the removing of a disabled persons vehicle at anytime & any reason anywhere is unlawful except to remove a hazard


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

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    The towing, clamping or the removing of a disabled persons vehicle at anytime & any reason anywhere is unlawful except to remove a hazard
    Is there any legislation surrounding this.


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    See previous post (5) by Micheal


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    Thanks


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

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    See previous post (5) by Micheal
    Hmmm.

    Careful. That is not a statutory instrument. It does make reference to legislation in places. I haven't read the relevant part recently but most of the whole document is advisory.
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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    So what is the actual legislation?


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    The section about the attempted clamping or removal of a disabled drivers vehicle is based on common law finding in a matter the citation of which I can't remember at the moment


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    Again, I stress that this is only applicable to vehicles while in contravention.

    Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions General Regulations 2007 Part 3

    Reg 13

    Limitations on the power to immobilise vehicles

    13.—(1) An immobilisation device must not be fixed to a vehicle if there is displayed on the vehicle—

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    a current disabled person’s badge; or



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    a current recognised badge.



    (2) If, in a case in which an immobilisation device would have been fixed to a vehicle but for paragraph (1)(a), the vehicle was not being used—

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    in accordance with regulations under section 21 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970(7); and



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    in circumstances falling within section 117(1)(b) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984(8) (use where a disabled persons’ concession would be available),



    the person in charge of the vehicle shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

    (3) If, in a case in which an immobilisation device would have been fixed to a vehicle but for paragraph (1)(b), the vehicle was not being used—

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    in accordance with regulations under section 21A of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970(9); and



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    in circumstances falling within section 117(1A)(b) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984(10) (use where a disabled person’s concession would be available by virtue of displaying a non-GB badge),



    the person in charge of the vehicle shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.



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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    For the circumstances you describe - where enforcement has progressed to a recovery stage by bailiffsicon then I actually don't personally know of any difference in the rules or particular exemptions.

    In such cases it is far more worth to follow the correct procedure if there has been an impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority. Orders for Recovery can be overturned - with reason. If you are getting bailifficon cases re parking contraventions then the facts should be discussed here apart from whatever you do in the debt forum. Better still and for more specific legal advice - err - that 'other' place.
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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    There is also a difference between a car owned by a blue badge holder and a car displaying a blue badge.


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    I am a blue badge user and i was booked by the local authority, only to have it waived on appeal.

    my subsequent research turned up the fact that 4.2% of "able-bodied" tickets were subseqently waived while a staggering 44% of "disabled" tickets were. ie these represent tickets which should not have been issued.

    This indicates to me a deliberate targeting of the disabled, which is illegal.

    I am considering my further action on this issue


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    that is worth pursuing.


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    Default Re: What is the situation with bailiffs and cars owned by blue badge holders?

    Quote Originally Posted by WAVE_131 View Post
    I am a blue badge user and i was booked by the local authority, only to have it waived on appeal.

    my subsequent research turned up the fact that 4.2% of "able-bodied" tickets were subseqently waived while a staggering 44% of "disabled" tickets were. ie these represent tickets which should not have been issued.

    This indicates to me a deliberate targeting of the disabled, which is illegal.

    I am considering my further action on this issue
    Total rubbish!! How can you tell by looking at a pcnicon who it was issued to able bodied or not? There is no such thing as a disabled ticket the contravention codes are all the same. If anything more leeway is given to disabled drivers resulting in BB holders being shown greater discretion. Blue badge holders can park almost anywhere so issuing a PCN to a BB holder is far less likely. If you got 'accurate' figures to show the percentage of non BB drivers getting a PCN and compared it the the number of BB holders getting a PCN you would probably realise able bodied get far more tickets.



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