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The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
Hi everyone
I have been having quite a long running battle with A&L about this and I just wondered if anyone else has had the same grief as me?
I have the Visa Debit card without cheque guarantee, series number 4659. I have had problems in some places paying with it as allegedly the chips on these cards are programmed as a Visa Electron, so basically instead of it actually being a Visa Debit it seems it is an Electron dressed up as a Visa Debit! The cheque guarantee cards which have a different series number read as a standard Delta/Visa Debit card which isnt a problem.
I have complained about this on several occasions but they just keep dismissing me as if Im an idiot and I even got a fairly rude email from their 'internet customer services team' about it.
I rang them the other day after recieving a letter which said 'we cannot offer you a debit card' and they said that when I opened the account I would have had an Electron. Nope, Ive never had an Electron, i said. But you would have done, they persisted. No, I have never had an Electron! My original card was issued as the same card series then destroyed and reissued after it was cloned about 3 weeks after issue. (how unlucky was that???) So basically I was approved for an Electron - which I wasnt told at any stage. She also admitted that some companies dont take this card, and someone i had spoken to previously had said 'Ah.' in a way that said 'yes, we know but we arent going to admit it.' If I had known this, I would not have taken the account as I needed the card to pay for my train tickets to work, and of course the train company wouldnt take it, so I ended up having to pay by cash which I was very unhappy about as I dont ever use cash if I can help it.
I have written them a fairly strongly worded letter but I get the feeling I will get the usual fob-off, my questions are:
1) I feel like I have been mis-sold the account as at NO STAGE was I told about the problems with this card and that some places wont take it, so who do I need to complain to;
2) Has anyone else with this card had these sort of problems...???
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02 Apr 2008, 23:55
OfficialLeeRyan wrote:
i like that!! its simple and good and gets the fans involved aswell x x x
MY SUCCESSES -
1st Credit (Lloyds TSB) admitted no CCA, reply from OFT 130608, reply from FOS 040608, adjudication stage rejected but still no contact....
My mate (Littlewoods/Moorcroft)
300608 -Long running battle,threatening court, CCA letter NO 2 and harrassment letter sent - passed back to Littlewoods early July.
070808 - Passed to Debt Managers, Acct in dispute/BOG OFF letter sent 080808...
140808 - Letter from Debt Managers passing debt back to Littlewoods - RESULT!
Re: The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
1) No one at a bank can promise any type of card prior to opening the account because it is credit scored.
2) Not happened to me so cannot comment further on this one.
Re: The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
Hi YB.
Thanks for your response. Glad to see this post came out ok...
What I was getting at in point 1) Was when I opened the account, it came up on the screen 'debit no chq.' I said to them is that an Electron card. They said no, its a visa debit. Before I signed the forms I asked SPECIFICALLY if it was definitely a Visa Debit and COULD I THEREFORE USE IT TO BUY TRAIN TICKETS AT THE STATION AS IF NOT I DONT WANT IT.
It was Xmas Eve, 20 minutes before closing and I think they were trying to say anything to get me out of there. As i have said later they ADMITTED that train companies systems mean it cannot be used to purchase tickets in person so thats why Im getting at the fact I think its been mis-sold as I asked them specifically when I was approved for that particular card.
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02 Apr 2008, 23:55
OfficialLeeRyan wrote:
i like that!! its simple and good and gets the fans involved aswell x x x
MY SUCCESSES -
1st Credit (Lloyds TSB) admitted no CCA, reply from OFT 130608, reply from FOS 040608, adjudication stage rejected but still no contact....
My mate (Littlewoods/Moorcroft)
300608 -Long running battle,threatening court, CCA letter NO 2 and harrassment letter sent - passed back to Littlewoods early July.
070808 - Passed to Debt Managers, Acct in dispute/BOG OFF letter sent 080808...
140808 - Letter from Debt Managers passing debt back to Littlewoods - RESULT!
Re: The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
if I was on Martin Lewis' site I would say close the account and open another one that would offer you this. I guess what i need to ask is what do you want to get as an outcome?
They cannot give you a debit card after the fact.
Re: The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
Hi JC and YB,
Its not a basic account - its called a Premier account which is a standard current account with a preferential rate of interest.
Opening another account elsewhere isnt an option Im afraid - I would probably end up with either a cash card which is no use to me or a Solo etc which wouldnt be any use either - one thing it does do right is read as a Visa Debit when I am purchasing online, and I purchase a lot of hotel rooms/train tickets so I need the option to be able to do this.
I just want them to either sort the chip on my card out or just give me an Electron, in which case I will tell them to stick their account and go back to Natwest!!!
THE PRETENDER AGENDA - August 30,2008 - 2ND ROW!!! WOO-HOO!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A FAB NITE LEE! xx
Sunderland 011008 - THE BEST BIRTHDAY PRESSIE EVER! 'Aww, it's your birthday! Happy birthday darlin!'
02 Apr 2008, 23:55
OfficialLeeRyan wrote:
i like that!! its simple and good and gets the fans involved aswell x x x
MY SUCCESSES -
1st Credit (Lloyds TSB) admitted no CCA, reply from OFT 130608, reply from FOS 040608, adjudication stage rejected but still no contact....
My mate (Littlewoods/Moorcroft)
300608 -Long running battle,threatening court, CCA letter NO 2 and harrassment letter sent - passed back to Littlewoods early July.
070808 - Passed to Debt Managers, Acct in dispute/BOG OFF letter sent 080808...
140808 - Letter from Debt Managers passing debt back to Littlewoods - RESULT!
Re: The mystery of my A&L debit card - when is a Visa Debit not a Visa Debit???
I reckon they could erase the credit search, given that its thier error. Its worth a shot I reckon but it won't help you at all in the here and now
The views I express here are mere speculation based on my experience. I am not qualified nor insured to give legal advice and any action you take will be at your own risk.