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Just recived another finnal demand saying that a court summons is to be issued if i dont pay £175 there are saying they are going to send in the bailiffs i am not sure whether to inform these debt collectors that it is in dispute with the CPS or just ignor these and wait till the court papers are issued and if i do get issed papers what happens then can someone please advise thanks
please post up the exact text of the letter - or better still a picture of it suitable washed of your personal details.
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CPS have a habit of pursuing cases they think will be undefended.
They love to publish those but for some mysterious reason don't publish the ones they lose.
Now its on here a proper defense will be forthcoming if CPS issue real court papers - "I just know".
wonder if a troll will be along soon advising that the OP just pays up.....
Daniel Silverman won't actually do anything themselves anyway, they have no powers, so you might as well just keep ignoring them.
Once they fail, which they will if you just keep ignoring them, they will give up and pass back to CPS. Again, on past form, CPS will then write to you "Despite all efforts ...blah, blah, blah..."
Please be circumspect in what you post, don't include anything such as dates, times, location, etc which could conceivably help CPS in matching you to their information. There still are CPS trolls about.
thety run on a now win no fee basis hence the heavy handed letter which misrepresents the truth of the situation - big surprise.
1. Failure to pay now cannot of itself result in anything being registered against you as a debt in the county court
2. In order for you to get a CCJ (County Court Judgment) registered against you ALL of the following have to take place
(a) the company concerned have to issue a claim against you. This costs them a fee, typically £30.00 for a normal parking ticket
(b) you either do not enter a defence because you forgot, are daft or some other reason ( in which case the Claimant will request a judgment in default)
OR
much less likely the case actually goes to a hearing and you lose
(c)that having lost, you do not pay the Judgment debt within 28 days of the judgment being entered against you.
A bailiffs warrant would only be issued if you lost and didn't pay the judgment debt as instructed by the judge.
So I would be contacting the CSA on Monday morning to see if Daniels Silverman is registered with them and making a strong complaint - with a copy of their letter.
dont know where you are actually based [please don't say in this public forum] but, if notice were given in Liverpool county court, your first action could be to transfer this to your locality, here's hoping you live in Landsend or Carlisle.
Please don't be unduly worried by all this. If you follow this through the worst thing that can happen is that you will be inconvenienced for a day at County Court, tempered by winning a case with costs against the [problem]mers. A grand day out. This is a remote possibilty, what is far more likely is that everything will go queit after Silvermans have shot their bolt.
dont know where you are actually based [please don't say in this public forum] but, if notice were given in Liverpool county court, your first action could be to transfer this to your locality, here's hoping you live in Landsend or Carlisle.
Please don't be unduly worried by all this. If you follow this through the worst thing that can happen is that you will be inconvenienced for a day at County Court, tempered by winning a case with costs against the [problem]mers. A grand day out. This is a remote possibilty, what is far more likely is that everything will go queit after Silvermans have shot their bolt.
Given that this is CPS their is a possibility that they might take this to court. Depends on whether they're feeling lucky after the Oldham case.
Eddie, CPS do have a history of litigation over their claims but not a great record of success - possibly because of the efforts of their brilliant in-house legal team. (See this thread: Perky defeated in Oldham Court).
I tend to agree with BB, I think this will go quiet.
One word of warning - CPS are known to lurk and read the postings on these forums. They have been known to try and gather information from the fourms that they will attempt to use against you. Make sure any postings are washed of any data that can be used to identify you.
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They have been known to try and gather information from the fourms that they will attempt to use against you.
Bearing in mind that whatever they did find out on here, it wouldn't change the legitimacy of the penalty. They're more likely to try and weedle out someone who doesn't sound very confident in an attempt to get an undefended win-by-default.
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THE JUDGE STATED IT WAS NOT A PENALTY DESPITE BEING POINTED TOWARDS THE AUTHORITIES, THE SIGNAGE WAS CLEAR AND DESPITE NOT BEING SEEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
Advice given, subject to usual caveats and warnings - CHECK
All goes quiet for 11 months - CHECK
PPC troll, completely lacking in credibility, posts about a mystery court case, making rabid claims about mystery helpers, all without substantiation - CHECK
Advice given, subject to usual caveats and warnings - CHECK
All goes quiet for 11 months - CHECK
PPC troll, completely lacking in credibility, posts about a mystery court case, making rabid claims about mystery helpers, all without substantiation - CHECK
You're banging a tired old drum.
1. Normal advice given to defendant - CHECK
2. Advice to defendant not to say anything more in public and only by PM - CHECK
3. Silence until court date, if win tell everyone, if lose deny helping - CHECK
4. Court hearing take time with helping behind scenes - CHECK
5. Same old advice given by 'experts' totally useless in court and the defendant loses and instead of paying £60 now pays 4x more - CHECK
6. People who helped him, stay silent and just await the next case when they will do same and hope for a different result - CHECK
I feel sorry for the defendant,(edit)but still this ruined his Xmas last year (as he said in court) but still he listened to advice, built his hopes up that it was an unenforceable penalty only to have them all knocked down as it IS a lawfull and fully enforceable parking charge.
Final Demand or court Action
i am not sure whether to inform these debt collectors
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