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    Default Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Hi all,

    I've just gone past a mobile camera van on my local road, and think I might have been doing about 40 in a 30....just a couple of questions:

    - The back of the van(where the camera was) was point in the same direction as my travel, but on the opposite side of the road. I.E. it was pointing towards oncoming traffic on the same side of the road, which was the opposite side of the road to that on which I was travelling. Any idea if this means my car was being "monitored" or not?
    - Is there anything regarding markings/alerts of a van legally? They had tucked in behind some trees so it was impossible to see until you had gone past.
    - Presumably 40 in a 30 would usually be 3 points and 60 fine?

    Thanks in advance - panicking somewhat as never ever been done for speeding or any other motoring thing before!!!

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrShed View Post
    Hi all,

    The back of the van(where the camera was) was point in the same direction as my travel, but on the opposite side of the road. I.E. it was pointing towards oncoming traffic on the same side of the road, which was the opposite side of the road to that on which I was travelling. Any idea if this means my car was being "monitored" or not?
    If the van was on the oposite side of the road with the camera facing your oncoming traffic, then that is who it was checking.


    The cameras record the speed of the APPROACHING vehicles, otherwise they would be trying to prosecute you for travelling at MINUS 40 miles per hour presumably (as you were travelling away from them when the camera was pointed at you).

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    Stop travelling at 40 miles an hour on a 30mph road in future please!!


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    If the van was on the oposite side of the road with the camera facing your oncoming traffic, then that is who it was checking.


    The cameras record the speed of the APPROACHING vehicles, otherwise they would be trying to prosecute you for travelling at MINUS 40 miles per hour presumably (as you were travelling away from them when the camera was pointed at you).

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    Stop travelling at 40 miles an hour on a 30mph road in future please!!
    Not true I'm afraid GATSO cameras get you as you go past photographing the rear of the vehicle.
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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
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    Stop travelling at 40 miles an hour on a 30mph road in future please!!
    I know lol

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    its a case of wait and see, you will hear soon enough

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    Not true I'm afraid GATSO cameras get you as you go past photographing the rear of the vehicle.
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    He wasn't asking about GATSO.

    The speed camera vans use a fixed camera position and are therefore presumably set up in the best vantage point to clearly observe as many cars passing as possible with the camera being able to record the number plate of offenders.

    Setting up on the oposite side of the road and pointing the camera a vehicles travelling away from them on the other lane would at the very least be foolhardy as many of the speeders observed would not be able to be prosecuted because their plate was obscured by a vehicle travelling towards the camera van! Also the angle at which the laser would have to be aimed most likely would result in the camera not receiving a "ping" back because it would bounce off the car at an angle into the ether.


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Cheers crem - certainly seems a good point, where the van was located any cars travelling the other way would block the path of any video/signal pointing at my car....

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    He wasn't asking about GATSO.
    How would he know what type of camera was in the van??


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    as ever G&M you always wish to take the discussion away from common sense and digress into theoretical what ifs and maybes when I believe you know full well how the camera vans typically operate, and it isn't by placing vans on the wrong side of the road and chancing to luck that they will be able to observe and record vehicles across carrigeways.


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    as ever G&M you always wish to take the discussion away from common sense and digress into theoretical what ifs and maybes when I believe you know full well how the camera vans typically operate, and it isn't by placing vans on the wrong side of the road and chancing to luck that they will be able to observe and record vehicles across carrigeways.
    I was simply correcting your claim that

    "The cameras record the speed of the APPROACHING vehicles, otherwise they would be trying to prosecute you for travelling at MINUS 40 miles per hour presumably (as you were travelling away from them when the camera was pointed at you)."

    this is not the case.

    Admittedly being on the other side of the road would tend to indicate the camera was filming the other direction but that is different to claiming cameras ONLY film oncoming traffic.


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrShed View Post
    Is there anything regarding markings/alerts of a van legally? They had tucked in behind some trees so it was impossible to see until you had gone past.
    I understand that last year, when the rules changed about allowing variable points for speeding, that they also allowed covert surveillance. Thus North Wales Constabulary now have a horse box that has no markings at all - but internally is fully equipped with speed detection devices.

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    I was simply correcting your claim that ....
    or more acurately; you were simply been as argumentative and obtuse as ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    or more acurately; you were simply been as argumentative and obtuse as ever.
    Sorry I promise never to correct you when you give out incorrect and misleading advice ever again!!


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    can I have that in writing please Green (although I'm sure I will still have to read through your many "corrections" of everyone else on the forums unfortunately)

    However, sticking to the MrShed's original question, it would seem at least there is an agreement that it is very very unlikely that this camera van was set up to observe vehicles travelling in his lane and he would be a most unlucky driver if this was the case. I am sure he will keep posted if something changes in this regard.

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by crem View Post
    can I have that in writing please Green (although I'm sure I will still have to read through your many "corrections" of everyone else on the forums unfortunately)
    Isn't freedom of speech a wonderful thing!!


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Thanks for the advice all guys Esio crem and G+M.

    Guess it looks as if I would be unlucky, but will of course let you know if/when I get my NIP through

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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    ps
    Stop travelling at 40 miles an hour on a 30mph road in future please!!
    Meh.

    I'm always doing 40 on 30mph stretches where the roads are straight and clear, with good visibility.


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al27 View Post
    Meh.

    I'm always doing 40 on 30mph stretches where the roads are straight and clear, with good visibility.
    40 on a 30 would give you an automatic failure on an L test Al27, so lets hope you are never ordered to retake yours or you could be without your licence for a long time.


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    Default Re: Just passed mobile camera van - have I been caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al27 View Post
    Meh.

    I'm always doing 40 on 30mph stretches where the roads are straight and clear, with good visibility.
    Just so long as you recognise that it makes you a habitual criminal!



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