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    Default Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    Hello everyone, I have had a very quick look around and couldn't what I was looking for.

    A friend of mine parked her car "nose in" in a car park in Romford "managed" by MET parking services.

    She bought her ticket and stuck it to her rear window, as this was the window facing out, thinking this would make the ticket checker's life easier.....

    On returning she had a pcnicon stating "the vehicle did not clearly display a valid parking ticket/voucher/permit"

    On checking her ticket was still on her back window she retrieved it and in very small writing at the bottom of the ticket was "Please display clearly on Dashboard".

    She appealed the PCN with MET Parking Services, quoting some case Thornton v. Shoe Lane Parking Ltd 1997, something about the lack of prominence of the "please display clearly on dashboard" on ticket and also the wording of said condition did not indicate an obligation but merely a suggestion. She also said she had parked the car and placed the ticket on the back window to assist their staff.

    She just heard back today her appeal has been turned down. There is nothing on the letter saying she has a further right of appeal or details of an adjudicator/Ombudsmanicon, is there such a thing for PCNs issued on private property by a private company?

    Any advice would be great.

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    read the stickies about PPCs. You are being conned by [problem] merchants.


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    Have you got a photo of the parking "rules" that they have on the board?

    I too have been "MET'd" in the same car park...


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    This is not a council ticket. This is a private company with no powers and who are no different from Joe Bloggs Plasterers Ltd.

    There is no 'appeals process'.

    It's a [problem].

    • do not pay
    • do not contact them
    • ignore any letters your receive, no matter how threatening
    • they will go away after 5 or 6 letters
    • ignore lies about CCJs or court costs in the letters. They are fabrications designed to scare you into coughing up.


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    Femstermum,

    Don't want to labour the point that others have made but this really is a [problem].

    There are two types of parking tickets, ones issued by Local Authorities which are backed up by statute, the other type being those issued by private companies, like yours.

    Al27 is quite right, these private tickets have absolutely no validity, they have no more right to "fine" you than I do.

    Cheerfully ignore, don't give them a 2nd thought.


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    If you're still not convinced (you should be) then please read this too:

    Private Parking Tickets: Tickets are often invalid, don't pay....


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    I agree with the others - ignore the letters.

    On a legal note - Thornton v Shoe lane parking was in 1971 and only really applies to clauses that one would not expect to see.


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    Thank you all very much for the advice, the ticket was issued to a friend of mine, I had a hard time convincing her to ignore any letters, especially when the "we will send the bailiffsicon round immediately" letter landed on her door mat! I had to agree to speak on her behalf (and pay the costs) if she ended up in court. She was joking, I think!

    My gut feeling from the start was that as she had bought the ticket, just displayed it wrongly, she could argue her way out of it, no intention to "defraud" anyone etc.

    She was strong and eventually everything went quiet, I am touching wood as I type this....

    Thank again.


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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    Quote Originally Posted by femstermum View Post
    She appealed the pcnicon with MET Parking Services, quoting some case Thornton v. Shoe Lane Parking Ltd 1997,

    Interesting a PPC quotes stated law (which does not apply to a ppc) yet continually ignores criminal law.

    She just heard back today her appeal has been turned down.



    There is nothing on the letter saying she has a further right of appeal or details of an adjudicator/Ombudsmanicon, is there such a thing for PCNs issued on private property by a private company?

    Don't confuse these clowns with real legal authority.

    Any advice would be great.

    Many thanks
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    Default Re: Valid ticket, wrong window.MET parking services

    My gut feeling from the start was that as she had bought the ticket, just displayed it wrongly, she could argue her way out of it, no intention to "defraud" anyone etc.
    Ok, if you bought an item from Tesco and I stopped you in the street and demanded you produce the receipt within 5 seconds could I fine you if you handed it to me upside down and it took you 10 seconds?



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