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    Default Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    I've been given a ticket for parking in a place I've used off and on for years. It's next to a drop kerb, but one that isn't used as a way in to a garage or driveway. There is a garage door but it is NEVER used to gain access to the road. There is no white line or "NO PARKING' sign anywhere near it.

    In my street which only has 14 houses, there are 4 dropped kerbs, two of which have white lines.

    I will challenge the fine.

    Does anyone have any helpful advice?

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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Welcome to CAGicon jrm.

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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Unless you were loading or unloading there is not really another plausible defence to parking across a drop kerb, whether its used or not is not really relevant.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Not whole story from G&M
    If it not a dropped kerb for a footway e.g. it as the one you describe, a driveway access. You can park across it provided you have the permission of the landowner (but not for a fee). G&M knows this.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by lamma View Post
    Not whole story from G&M
    If it not a dropped kerb for a footway e.g. it as the one you describe, a driveway access. You can park across it provided you have the permission of the landowner (but not for a fee). G&M knows this.
    I agree If it is a residential dropped kerb you can park with the owners permission. The idea is to stop attendants ticketing the owner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    I agree If it is a residential dropped kerb you can park with the owners permission. The idea is to stop attendants ticketing the owner.
    One can probably assume then that the owner had not given permission then, if the Council issued a pcnicon or maybe you think they just issue to every car on a drop kerb and just hope its never the householder?


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    One can probably assume then that the owner had not given permission then, if the Council issued a pcnicon or maybe you think they just issue to every car on a drop kerb and just hope its never the householder?
    I cant see the attendant banging on the owners door before issuing.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    I cant see the attendant banging on the owners door before issuing.
    Exactly....PCNs are only issued to private driveways upon receiving a complaint. If this was not the case they would be dishing out hundreds of PCNs a day.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    Exactly....PCNs are only issued to private driveways upon receiving a complaint. If this was not the case they would be dishing out hundreds of PCNs a day.
    ok ,
    how would one find out if the ticket was issued due to a complaint and not attendant error ie training issues.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    ok ,
    how would one find out if the ticket was issued due to a complaint and not attendant error ie training issues.
    Surely that is a bit obvious? If it was the OPs house or a friends with permission he does not need to know if a complaint has been made since he is exempt so the complaint is irrelevant.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    Exactly....PCNs are only issued to private driveways upon receiving a complaint. If this was not the case they would be dishing out hundreds of PCNs a day.
    Not a complaint - a request to enforce. Big difference.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by lamma View Post
    Not a complaint - a request to enforce. Big difference.
    how will the op know if it has been enforced without a request.
    Are records of enforcement requests kept.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    how will the op know if it has been enforced without a request.
    Are records of enforcement requests kept.
    It makes no odds he either was entitled to park there or not regardless of any complaint or 'request to enforce'.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    It makes no odds he either was entitled to park there or not regardless of any complaint or 'request to enforce'.
    so an attendant is within his rights to place a ticket on my car which is parked on or adjacent to my dropped kerb.

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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    so an attendant is within his rights to place a ticket on my car which is parked on or adjacent to my dropped kerb.
    then the next question would be, whats stopping an attendant issuing a rogue ticket on a single occupancy dropped kerb/driveway in a residential area which is not used and a reqest/compalint has not been made.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    so an attendant is within his rights to place a ticket on my car which is parked on or adjacent to my dropped kerb.
    Yes a pcnicon can be issued just as a PCN can be issued to any vehicle on a yellow line. Obviously to save dealing with thousands of appeals Councils try to avoid issuing to vehicles that are exempt from the restriction.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    then the next question would be, whats stopping an attendant issuing a rogue ticket on a single occupancy dropped kerb/driveway in a residential area which is not used and a reqest/compalint has not been made.
    It is not a rogue pcnicon, it is a contravention to park adjacent to a drop kerb so the PCN is issued correctly. If the driver feels he is exempt due to having been granted prior permission to park (or owns the house) then he can appeal.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Wong. can only enforce after a request has been made.


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by lamma View Post
    Wong. can only enforce after a request has been made.
    Says who?


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    Default Re: Parking code 27 (dropped kerb)

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    Says who?

    Hillingdon seem to think you have to

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