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    Default Bus lane contravention.

    A quick question on cctv postal tickets

    Do they now have to give 21 days to pay to keep the 50% reduction instead of the old 14 days.

    Many thanx all

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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    A quick question on cctv postal tickets

    Do they now have to give 21 days to pay to keep the 50% reduction instead of the old 14 days.

    Many thanx all
    here's the ticket( well converted pdf it has all the words to check tho)

    This is a postal cctv ticket



    Penalty Charge Notice
    This notice is for a bus lane contravention
    Road Trafflo AeQlJlatlOn Act 1884 (as amended) London Local Authorities Act 1996 (as amended)
    PART 1
    Details of Contravention
    Lambeth
    Parking
    Penalty Charge Notice: Vehicle Registration Number: Date of Penalty Charge Notice:
    DO NOT IGNORE THIS NOTICE. You are legally responsible for dealing with this notice. Do not pass it on to the driver.
    The London Borough of Lambeth believes that a penalty charge is payable with respect to the above vehicle for the following alleged contravention:
    Contravention Code and Description:
    -Being in a Bus Lane
    On: At: 10:47
    Location:
    Observed by CCTV Camera Operator:
    Penalty Charg~e~
    Amount of penalty charge payable is £ 120.00
    The penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of this notice ('the 28 Day Period').
    A reduced charge of £ 60.00 is payable Tile amount of the penalty charge is reduced by 50% to £60.00 if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of this notice ('the Reduced Charge Period').
    Payment of this notice must be sent to:
    Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN131XT
    Payment Slip
    For payment options see overleaf
    You must complete this slip in block capitals and return it with your payment to the address below.
    Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN131XT

    Further CCTV images of the alleged contravention observed in real-time by the camera operator can be viewed at London Borough of Lambeth | Parking Services Photo Viewing
    Please use unique code number:
    ----=---_
    Yo u may be entitled to challenge this Penalty Charge Notice, please see overleaf for further information.
    If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 Day Period, an Enforcement Notice may be served on the person appearing to us to be the owner of the vehicle.
    Penalty Charge Notice: Vehicle Registration Number: Date of Contravention: 21/06/2008
    Name
    Address


    Is this compliant.

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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    here's the ticket( well converted pdf it has all the words to check tho)

    This is a postal cctv ticket




    Penalty Charge Notice

    This notice is for a bus lane contravention
    Road Trafflo AeQlJlatlOn Act 1884 (as amended) London Local Authorities Act 1996 (as amended)
    PART 1

    Details of Contravention


    Lambeth

    Parking
    Penalty Charge Notice: Vehicle Registration Number: Date of Penalty Charge Notice:
    DO NOT IGNORE THIS NOTICE. You are legally responsible for dealing with this notice. Do not pass it on to the driver.
    The London Borough of Lambeth believes that a penalty charge is payable with respect to the above vehicle for the following alleged contravention:
    Contravention Code and Description:

    -Being in a Bus Lane


    On: At: 10:47

    Location:

    Observed by CCTV Camera Operator:

    Penalty Charg~e~
    Amount of penalty charge payable is £ 120.00
    The penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of this notice ('the 28 Day Period').
    A reduced charge of £ 60.00 is payable Tile amount of the penalty charge is reduced by 50% to £60.00 if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of this notice ('the Reduced Charge Period').
    Payment of this notice must be sent to:
    Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN131XT
    Payment Slip
    For payment options see overleaf
    You must complete this slip in block capitals and return it with your payment to the address below.
    Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN131XT

    Further CCTV images of the alleged contravention observed in real-time by the camera operator can be viewed at London Borough of Lambeth | Parking Services Photo Viewing
    Please use unique code number:
    ----=---_
    Yo u may be entitled to challenge this Penalty Charge Notice, please see overleaf for further information.
    If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 Day Period, an Enforcement Notice may be served on the person appearing to us to be the owner of the vehicle.
    Penalty Charge Notice: Vehicle Registration Number: Date of Contravention: 21/06/2008
    Name

    Address



    Is this compliant.

    Cheers.
    second opinion anyone?? The reduction period is wrong isnt it??


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    It is supposed to be 21 days.
    Puzzling that Lambeth have a PO Box address in Worthing?


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by robin9342 View Post
    It is supposed to be 21 days.
    Puzzling that Lambeth have a PO Box address in Worthing?
    ok cheers mate im going to challenge this ticket.
    yes po box is puzzeling too


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    ok cheers mate im going to challenge this ticket.
    yes po box is puzzeling too
    Ok here's the blimmin back

    anyone think I still have a challenge (sorry about the format)



    this Penalty Charge Any challenge to this Penalty Charge must be made in writing to:
    Lambeth Parking Services PO Box 4525, Worthing, BN131XT
    General Enquiries To make an enquiry about this notice or for other parking information:
    Internet: www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking
    Phone: 0845 3313310 Please note that tile operators are not authorised to make decisions on any chal' ,ge to a Penalty Charge
    In Person: At our parking shops or contact centre (see opposite)
    Data Protection Statement Data collected through the issuing of this Penalty Charge Notice will
    be used for enforcement of traffic offences, contraventions and other associated purposes.
    This data may also be disclosed to
    London Councils and other enforcement agencies. All processing of this data will be in accordance with the Data Protection Act 1998.
    Penalty Charge Notice: Part 2
    Challenging this Penalty Charge Notice
    Making a formal challenge Formal representations can only be made on receipt of the Enforcement Notice. The Enforcement Notice will set out the grounds on which representations may be made.
    Making an early (informal) challenge You may however informally challenge the issue of the Penalty Charge Notice immediately. If you do not think this Penalty Charge Notice should have been issued, return the payment slip along with a written explanation and any evidence supporting your challenge to Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN13 1XT. The London Borough of Laillbeth may exercise its discretion to cancel the Penalty Charge Notice when considering any mitigating circumstances you put forward.
    If the London Borough of Lambeth receives your challenge during the 14 day Reduced Charge Period but does not accept your challenge, you will have the opportunity to pay the reduced penalty charge for a further 14 days from the date the rejection letter is served.
    Do not make payment now if you are challenging the penalty charge.
    Payment Options
    Cash, Cheque, Postal Order VISA .'''' ~~
    Internet By credit or debit card at London Borough of Lambeth | Payments Please have your Penalty Charge Notice number and issue date, vehicle registration number and your credit/debit card details available.
    Phone By credit or debit card 24 hours a day on 0845 331 3310
    Post By cheque or postal order only. payable to 'London Borough of Lambeth'. Please write the Penalty Charge Notice number, vehicle registration number and your address on the back of the cheque or postal order.
    Complete the payment slip and return it with your payment to: Lambeth Parking Services, PO Box 4525, Worthing BN13 1XT
    Do NOT send cash or make credit card payment by post. Post dated cheques will not be accepted.
    In Person By cash, cheque, postal order, credit and debit cards at the locations set out below:
    Gracefield Gardens Customer Centre
    2-8 Gracefield Gardens
    Monday:
    8:30 -17:30
    Streatham
    Tuesday:
    8:30 -15:00
    London SW16 2ST
    Wednesday:
    8:30 -19:00
    Thursday:
    8:30 -17:30
    Friday:
    8:30 -17:30
    Saturday:
    10.00 -14:00
    Lambeth Towers
    Monday to Friday:
    10:30 -18:00
    74-80 Kennington Road
    Saturday:
    09:00 -16:30
    (Lambeth Road junction)
    London SE11 6NJ
    Brixton Customer Centre
    Monday:
    8:30 -17:30
    Olive Morris House
    Tuesday:
    8:30 -15:00
    18 Brixton Hill
    Wednesday:
    8:30 -17:30
    London SW2 1RL
    Thursday:
    8:30 -19:00
    Friday:
    8:30 -17:30
    Saturday:
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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    ok cheers mate im going to challenge this ticket.
    yes po box is puzzeling too
    Not that puzzling considering the process department is situated in Worthing probably makes getting the mail easier!


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    14 days is correct not sure why you state its the 'old' 14 days?


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    14 days is correct not sure why you state its the 'old' 14 days?
    it says in the sticky
    (a) in the case of a penalty charge notice served by virtue of regulation 10(1)(a) (on the basis of a record produced by an approved device), the last day of the period of 21 days beginning with the date on which the notice was served;
    could you enlighten me a bit more mate, whats 'virtue of reg 10(1)(a)'

    I heard somewhere you now have 21 days to appeal and keep the reduction if postal and by an aproved device. This ticket seems to fit the criterea.


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    it says in the sticky

    could you enlighten me a bit more mate, whats 'virtue of reg 10(1)(a)'

    I heard somewhere you now have 21 days to appeal and keep the reduction if postal and by an aproved device. This ticket seems to fit the criterea.
    Bus Lanes are not enforced (in London anyway) using the TMA 2004 they use the London Local Authority acts. Information regarding the procedure can be found on the PATAS site.
    Parking and Traffic Appeals Service - Bus lane enforcement


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    it says in the sticky

    could you enlighten me a bit more mate, whats 'virtue of reg 10(1)(a)'

    I heard somewhere you now have 21 days to appeal and keep the reduction if postal and by an aproved device. This ticket seems to fit the criterea.
    Section 10 is from 'The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007' so unless you actually 'parked' in the bus lane it won't cover your pcnicon.


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by green_and_mean View Post
    Section 10 is from 'The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007' so unless you actually 'parked' in the bus lane it won't cover your pcnicon.
    Thanx matey new it was there somewhere.


    BTW is there a rule by which if you drive in a bus lane for a small distance you will generally be ok ( 20 meters isnt it, a bit like de minimus in reverse!!)


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    Default Re: Bus lane contravention.

    Quote Originally Posted by nero12 View Post
    Thanx matey new it was there somewhere.


    BTW is there a rule by which if you drive in a bus lane for a small distance you will generally be ok ( 20 meters isnt it, a bit like de minimus in reverse!!)
    No, I think you are confusing it with entering the bus lane before you get to a left hand turning.



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