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    • LPA.  (I'm fighting insolvency due to all the stuff that he and lender have done).  He appointed estate agents - (changed several times). Disclosure shows he was originally appointed for a specific reason (3m after repo) : using his powers as acting for leaseholder to serve notice on freeholders (to grab fh).  There was interest from 3 potential buyers. He chose one whose offer depended on a positive result of the notice.  Disc also shows he'd taken counsel advice - which was 'he'd fail'.  Irrespective he'd asked to resign as his job (of serving notice) was done and he'd found a buyer.  Lender asked him to stay on to assign notice to the buyer.  Notice failed, buyer didn't buy.  So receiver stayed.  There was 1 buyer who wanted to proceed w/o fh but receiver/ lender wasted 1y trying to get rid of them!  Disc shows why. But I didn't know why at the time. Lender voiced getting rid of receiver. Various reasons - including cost.  But there's a contradiction/ irony: as I've seen an email (of 4y ago) which shows the receiver telling lender not to incur significant costs and to minimize receiver costs.  Yet lender then asked him to serve another notice - again counsel advice indicated 'he'd fail'.  And he did fail.  But wasted 3y trying and incurred huge legal costs - lender trying to pass on to me. Lender interfered - said wanted to do works.  Receiver should have said no.  But disc. shows he agreed to step aside to let them do the works - on proviso lender would discuss potential costs first (they didn't), works wouldn't take long (took 15m), and lender would hold interest (they didn't) (this last point is crucial for me now - as I need to know if I can argue that all interest beyond this point shouldnt be allowed?)   I need to check receiver witness statement in litigation with freeholders to see exactly what he said about 'his position'. But I remember it being along the lines of - 'if the works increased the value of the property he didn't have a problem'.  Lender/ receiver real problems started at this point. The cost of works and 4y passage of time has meant there is no real increase in value. Lender (or receiver) didn't get any permissions (statutory or fh) (and didn't tell me) and just bulldozed the property to an empty shell.  The freeholders served notice on me as leaseholder for breach of covenants (strict no alterations).  The Lender stepped in (acting for me) to issue notice for relief of forfeiture - not the receiver.  That wasted 2y of litigation (3y if inc the works) and incurred huge costs (both sides).  Lender's aim was to do the works that every potential buyer balked at due to the lease restrictions.  Lender and receiver knew couldn't do works w/o fh permission. Lender did them anyway; receiver allowed.  Receiver remained appointed.  I'm arguing lender interfered in receiver duties.  Receiver should have just sold property 4-5y ago w/o allowing any works.  Almost 3y since works finished the property remains unsold (>5y from repo). The property looks brand new - but it was great before.  The lender spent a ton of money - hoping that would facilitate a quick sale.  But the money they spent and the years they have wasted has meant they had to increase sale price.  It's now completely overpriced.  And - of course - the same issues that put buyers off (before works) still exist.   The receiver has tried for 2y to assert the works increased value. But he is relying on agents estimates - which have proved highly speculative. (Usual trick of an agent to give a high value to get the business - and then tell seller to reduce when no-one buys.). And of course lender continues to accrue interest (despite 4y ago receiver saying pause interest). Lender tried to persuade receiver to use specific agent. Disc shows this agent was best friends with the lender's main investor in the property.  Before works this agent had valued it low.  After works this agent suggested a value 70% higher!  The lender persuaded receiver to sack one agent and instead use this agent.  No offers. (Price way too high).   Research has uncovered that this main investor has since died.  I guess his investment is part of probate? And his family want it back?    Disc shows the sacked agent had actually received a high offer 1y ago.  Receiver rejected it.  He was relying on the high speculative valuation the agents had given him to pitch for the business. The agents were in a catch-22.  The receiver sacked them. Disc shows there has been 0 interest ever since. I don't think lender or receiver want all this to come out in public domain via a trial.  It will ruin their reputations. If I can't get an order for sale with lender - can I apply separately against receiver?
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Taken ages to make a start on this one but finally sent prelim letters off for 2 accounts with Cap 1. I paid a 'reduced' amount to a DCA some years ago for 1 account and another DCA are pursuing me for 2nd (although have been advised in dispute). I marked 14 day deadline on calendar (7 July) and prepared my LBA.

 

Got a letter today relating to one account which was really really nice and fluffy and offering me money back! Well, when I say nice, the amount they were offering me wasn't particularly nice - in fact it was less than half the amount I was claiming in charges alone - let alone interest!

 

They state that the OFT has challenged the level of default sums and as such they are reducing the amount I was charged to £12 and giving me an extra £20 as an acknowledgment of interest that I may have incurred. Was a bit puzzled by that bit as they know I have incurred interest as they were the ones that charged it - and it was considerably more than £20!!

 

Anyway going to decline their offer via my LBA and see what happens!

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Got a bit of a query if anyone's on?

Been reading other threads and there are a couple who have asked for CCA?

If this goes to the court stage, which I assume it will, do I need a copy of my original credit agreement and the terms and conditions that I signed up to at the time??

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You don't need a copy of the original agreement if you arejust recaliming charges. The T&Cs mwould be useful if it ever got to court but seeing as there is as much chance of that as Elvis performing aat Glastonbury, you don't need to worry too much :rolleyes:

 

 

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Thanks Steven - will bear it in mind and see how we go. I am challenging them on 2 accounts and got a similar letter today regarding the second account, once again offering me about half the amount I am claiming and then very kindly offering to let their DCA know that they only need to threaten me for a reduced amount!

 

The funny thing is that the amount the DCA are chasing me for is about the full amount of charges levied by Cap1 - interesting! I was wondering whether to reply saying, thanks for offering me half the amount you owe me - how about I pay this to you and you accept half the amount you reckon I owe you!!:lol:

 

LBA on second account off today.

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Oooh D Day is here!! Heard nothing from Cap 1 with regard to my LBA so as 14 days now up it's time to take action!

 

Think read somewhere not to use MCOL with credit cards for some reason so will have a go at the N1. Fingers crossed won't take too long!!:)

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That's right, do not use MCOL, your claim will be automatically be on hold thinking these are bank charges.

 

Keep us posted. . .

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Got a letter from Cap 1 in relation to my 2nd account. Says the OFT hasn't told us that they are obliged to refund any default sums and they have offered refunds as a gesture of goodwill - how kind!

 

They also say that as they have sold my debt to Robinson Way and while they are happy to honour the refunds they have offered, I need to contact them directly to arrange repayments.

 

They won't provide a breakdown of their costs as this is confidential business information and they look forward to recieving my signed settlement form so that we can put this behind us and save the courts valuable time.

 

Is this their usual response?

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YES. This is their usual kind of letter

Capital One only payout after you file at court usually within 28 days so stick to your guns and YOUR timetable not theirs.

Carry on with this claim as you have with your 1st claim and just wait for your money to arrive!

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:)Surely life can't get any worse it has to only get better from hear on out:)

 

LTSB- My claim like thousands of others is Stayed

Cap 1-See my tread about that one

Barclaycard- Won before court stage

GE capital -2 accounts and LTSB card letter asking for refund stage (Waiting for out come of the above to carry on with these ones )

Sars sent for all my mums accounts

About to start PPI claims on My Mums accounts

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Jackiej

 

If they have sold the debt, you will have a default registered against you on your credit file. If the default was issued as a result of the charges, then demand that they remove it in the settlement.

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Thanks all for your comments and support. Checked with the court today and they have recieved my N1 and POC but they have not yet sent it out to the defendant but will do over the next couple of days.

They have given me a case number - do I need to note this anywhere?

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Defendant filed an acknowledgement of service on 23rd September 08.

They intend to defend all of the claim and theynow have 28 days from date of service to file a defence.

 

Now, I need to work out the 28 days timeline but do I need to start preparing a bundle at the moment or should I just hang on until I recieve a copy of their defence?

 

When does the allocation questionnaire get sent out and does it usually go this far with Cap 1 - can anyone help???!!!

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Crap One always say they are going to defend - but they won't. You'll probably get a letter from them very soon offering the full amount of your claim. This will probably arrive before the defence does, along with a request from telling you to discontinue. Don't discontinue until you are satisfied that the money has cleared into your account. If there is a balance outstanding on your card they will use the charges reclaim to reduce/pay off the balance and send you anything left over by cheque.

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Hi sorry to butt in here, i have taken cap 1 to court for charges, interest and defualt and all aderse info removed, they have said they are going to defend all the case but i got a letter from cap 1 this morning saying that they will pay in full charges interest and court fee and remove the defualt but will not remove late payment markers from cra's, also they have contacted the court to say they have paid in full and i should contact the courd to discontinue the case now, what should i do next, are the late payment markers just as bad as default? if i say no they havnt settled in full because of the late payment markers, how should i now go about it because their deadline to defend is thursday, and how do i know they will still remove default if i discontinue the case??

 

any help is appreciated and sorry to bump thread.

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My best advice would be not to discontinue, if you want the late markers removing as well.. Refuse their offer, keep the claim intact and keep it going. You would have a better chance of getting the lot if you keep it altogother. However, I'm not sure about whether late payment markers are as bad as defaults. Wouln't have thought so, although obviously they are not good. If it was me, I might well take what they are offering and live with the late markers. I suppose they would argue that you were late in paying, so they would be justified in leaving the late markers on your file. Not sure what others would advise. At the end of the day you have to go with what's best for you, at the time, in your situation.

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Hi all,

 

Just to let you know, Cap 1 have paid out in full and removed the default!!!

Thanks for all your help and donation on way via cheque.

 

Got a second account with Cap 1 so N1 off today and fingers crossed for that one!!

 

Thanks to everyone for help and can site team change title of thread to "won!" :-D:-D:-D

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Hi Jackie, congratulations on winning ur claim. Im in the same position. I lodged my claim against capital one a few weeks ago but because the court told me the wrong amount for the fee it has taken them near 2 weeks to refund me and the claim will only be lodged this week :mad:

 

Anyway, i just wanted to know, ur account was passed on and so was mine. Im paying back my account to Capquest, will this hold my claim up??? When u won how long before u received ur money?

 

Any help is much appreciated

Prelim letter sent to Ulster Bank for £1734.00 on 18 September

Received offer of £150 - 30/09/06

LBA sent 02/10/06

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