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    Smile jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Ok then. Taking on Argos once more.
    This is for my Hubby's account. Will send the CCA off tomorrow morning.
    Letter goes to the following adress (1st class recorded) with £1 PO included:
    Argos Card Services
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    Will also S.A.R. them on Monday.

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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    All the best with that, Jellybabe

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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Thanks very much.
    Got the same thing running for my own account under :
    jellybabe vs Argos (RDicon 2)

    sorry, not sure how to Link


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Thank you


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Letter delivered on the 14.06.08.
    Starting to count my 12 working days now.


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Have yesterday received the following Letter and CCA (well, supposedly) and T&C's.
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...sCCaReply1.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...sCCaReply2.jpg



    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosTCs2of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosTCs1of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosTCs3of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosTCs4of4.jpg

    will post the CCA in a minute.Just uploading it. Not too sure about the Link thing yet, hope they are working. Although i think the pictures might be a bit small??I had it all scanned into a pdf file, but not sure how to link one on here??
    The CCA is made up of 4 stapled together printouts. No signatureicon from me or them and no adress deatils on there. I assume they're trying it on. Although they do state in their letter that they can omit the adress and signature bits?? Anyway, will post it in a minute and then maybe someone can advice on my next step.
    Sorry for the lenghty post


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    right then, here they are (i hope):
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosCCa1of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosCCa2of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosCCa3of4.jpg
    http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...gosCCa4of4.jpg


    As you may be able to see, they're just printouts with space for any adress details or signatures. Also, the only space that would be signable, is the cancellation form bit.
    Another thing i noticed, Enclosure 1 has a little print at the top of the 3rd page:
    Argos small print doc 9/5/06 2:28 pm Page 1.
    And Enclosure 2 has the foloowing printed at the top:
    Argos Card Executet T&C's 16/3/07 4:55pm
    Now i'm not sure on this one, but i believe to have seen somewhere on CAGicon that it has to be the T&C's from when the account had been opened??


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    I would be grateful if anyone can advice me on the legibility of those please. And what my next step should be.
    In the meantime i will prepare the non compliance letter in case someone confirms to me that they have not complied with my request.
    Thank you


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Any advice please on the above?


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    No answers yet to the above. Will concentrate on my S.A.R. to Argos for now.
    Letter is ready to be sent and will be in the post on Mon 30th via recorded.


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Hi there,
    Don't want to be a pain,but i really need to know if the above "CCA" is enforcable, or is it a "CCA" at all??
    There 12+2 days runs out on Wed.
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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    No Where within the copy documents regulations does it state that your name and address can be omitted

    signatureicon yes , name and address not a prayer

    The Documents that have been provided may well contain the required terms thats not disputed but clearly its not the agreement you signed.

    i suggest that you ask for the agreement within the SARicon and also put in a line which says " in the alternative, please confirm the status of the original agreement, do you still hold on your records the original bearing my signature or a copy of it"

    there was a case recently that held you may not be entitled to a copy of hte agreement but you ARE entitled to know if they actually hold it


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Hi pt2537,
    Thanks for your reply. So shall i just leave it at that (no non compliance letter?), and send my S.A.R (which i wanted to do tomorrow morning anyway? Obviously i will have to amend it to include the line you mentioned.
    Thanks again for your reply, i felt a bit lonely on m ythread lately :o


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    just for your information the case i refered to is Ezsias v Welsh Ministers - [2007] All ER (D) 65 (Dec)

    just incase they come back with some rubbish saying they dont have to tell you if they still have the original, let me know if that is the case and we can fillet their donkey for them


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Ok thanks.Very kind. Will have a look at that case later when i've got some peace and quiet.


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Is the following ok to send as S.A.R.?
    Please supply me with a complete list of transactions and charges relating to my account history with your organisation.
    Alternatively, a complete set of statements for that period will be acceptable.

    Furthermore, with reference to the above agreement, we would be grateful if you would send us a copy of this credit agreement. In the alternative, please
    confirm the status of the original agreement. Do you still hold on your records the original bearing my signatureicon or a copy of it.

    Additionally, where there has been any event in my account history over this period which has required manual intervention by any member of your staff, or any other person, I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention, or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to my banking business with you.

    If you are unable to supply this data because there has been no such manual intervention, then please be so kind as to confirm this in your response.

    I enclose the statutory maximum fee of £10. You have 40 days in which to comply. Furthermore, if I discover that you have levied disproportionate penalties against me, then I shall be reclaiming them, and also reclaiming the enclosed £10 Data Protection Act Subject access requesticon fee.

    If there is specific information which you require in order to satisfy yourself as to my identity, please let me know by return. However, please note that the above address is the one which you normally use to communicate my private business to me and which you have hitherto found to be acceptable.




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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    I have now asked for the agreement within the S.A.R., which will be sent tomorrow morning.
    Still not sure if i have to send the Non compliance letter re. CCA off or not?
    I think i just leave it at that. After all, the charges should amount to a little bit. Now i am wondering how i'm gonna calculate the interesticon. I've got my spreadsheet from Steven4064's signatureicon, i believe this is the right one??
    Shall i just take the interest of the Argos website or would it be best to just leave it with just the charges. There are many different opinions out for the different type of interests, and if to claim it or not.


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    Exclamation Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Oh no! I just read a few threads and noticed that others have sent £11 instead of £10 when they requested the agreement within the S.A.R.??
    Have i jeopardised mine now by just sending the £10?? I did send £1 with my initial CCA request, and thought i didn't have to pay again, as they hadn't supplied what i've been asking for.


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    Default Re: jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)

    Quote Originally Posted by jellybabe View Post
    Oh no! I just read a few threads and noticed that others have sent £11 instead of £10 when they requested the agreement within the S.A.R.??
    Have i jeopardised mine now by just sending the £10?? I did send £1 with my initial CCA request, and thought i didn't have to pay again, as they hadn't supplied what i've been asking for.
    Hi,

    the fee for a SARicon is £10 , well actually its a maximum of £10

    if you already sent the one pound fee, then you do not need to send it again, all you need to do is send the £10 fee and a SARicon and thats that



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