Thread: Campaign against the CSA

Tiglet, as ever we understand that it goes on with the PWC also, but sorry we are not in that ball park, we are purely the NRP and new family being driven into poverty by this government run agency. We are fully aware that people have the right to choose wether to make a stance with us or not, it's their choice and also their democratic right, we aren't holding a gun to anyone's heads here. I have to say though that what many PWC don't understand is that those of the NRP's who ARE paying, as and when they should, are being stung by those who don't and won't!!!!! So sorry but we as NRP'S and NRPP'S don't deem this as fair. We know we aren't going to appease everybody and this is quite understandable but as was put in my original posting, it is for the NRP'S and NRPP'S ,,,,, we do NOT advocate NOT paying child support,on the contrary, what we do want to see stop is the raping of the NRP'S wages to fund the ones who DON'T pay. If people look at the website it becomes clear what it is all about, especially the amount of deaths at the hands of these people,,ALL, dads who were driven to suicide FACT,and the government turn a very blind eye to it all. We will not apologise for setting this site up, as we have already discovered, it is much needed. We aim to try and help people and give advice or even just to lend an ear to bend,instead of having yet another suicide. We are there for the ones who DO pay yet don't see their kids and get forced to sell their home, car,etc and some even end up living on the streets.
Not all PWC are going to be happy about it but we stand by what we want to try and change and hopefully achieve a world where you can work, pay for your kids and have a normal life and for ALL to be happy, whether this can be achieved under the government is another matter but it won't be for the want of not trying. I wish you health and happiness and i hope your situation gets better for you.My own personal circumstances would have you slightly gobsmacked but that is not for me to divulge, i don't see it as relevant.
Take care
Tigs x

Tiglet my fiance stands by his morals and he decided to fight for the NRP and NRPP becuase if you look at his site it shows how many fathers have committed suicide because the CSA have left them with nothing to live on. The PWC however gets child tax credits if they are on benefits and if the PWC is working they get working tax credits, what does the NRP get when he has nothing left out of his wages, (NOTHING AT ALL).
As I have said before while we understand how it affects some PWC, we are in the position of the NRP and NRPP and the CSA do not leave us with enought to pay our mortgage and the CSA stance is "well you should not have moved on with your life and you should not have met a new partner and how dare you even think about starting a new family"

He took the decision to not include the PWC as such so that is that

Dont get me started........
Ex partner, self employed, 4 bed house in upmarket area, 3 properties abroad, 2 cars, 2 young children in designer clothes, told csa earning 100.00 per week, ordered to pay 5.00 per week does not even pay that........

CSA say I need to prove he is earning more than 100 per week BUT they wont take photos, or even his own family's word as proof. How the hell am I supposed to prove it?

they say it costs 98 pounds per week to keep my son, he is ordered to pay 5.00- the remainder is left for me to pay. I AM on minimum wage but that is not taken into account at all. Plus, I have to organise childcare so that I can work. If there is a shortfall it is the parent with care who HAS to find the money!!! Plus they cannot comit suicide because they have a child to care for!!

Oh yes the WFTC (yes he is claiming benefits as well) have looked into it but apparantly he has upped his mortgage on his buisness several times- taken on invisible staff- you know the deal!! He is a barber so everything is cash in hand. one for the books - five for me!!
They wont take any hearsay- His own mother is disgusted and has phoned them also to tell them but they wont listen-- same old "tax returns and bank statements"- And everything in his wifes name!!!

Originally Posted by tiglet

Sounds rather familiar - did you end up in debt because of him too?

No thank goodness- found out he was cheating whilst I was pregnant and dumped him there and then- Tough at the time but glad to have done so before we married and got a mortgage!!
Although I some ways I could not continue with my career as I was a single mum and am in debt now through having to juggle jobs and childcare so indirectly yes!

However I would not swap my way of life for his (or his wife who never knows where he is) anyday!!

Plus the compliments I get about what a lovely child I have are to MY credit not his!

Unfortunately we have tried in vain to get ANY figures on whether,if any, PWC have committed or attempted suicide, all that keeps being returned is facts and figures on fathers, even figures and facts for abroad.
We have however obtained results on the CSA interviewing various clients as to what they thought of them and the way the system is run, so far (99 pages) it makes interesting reading.
We know as previously stated , that PWC have issues with these people too,they affect both PWC and NRP's but we do not ,nor will we ever ,condone any NRP that chooses to shirk their half of the responsibility. Our sympathy goes out to both sides but his stance is to fight for one.
Hugs Tigs x

I cannot cope with the csa anymore .My partner and myself are in serious financial differculty due to debt from his previous relationship with the pwc and the debts i have incured due to paying the debts he had with her.
I am 27 years old with three children ,my partner supposidly has two children with his ex but unfortunatly we cannot afford a dna test to prove this .He left the relationship with twenty thousand pounds of debt which occured whilst they were together and as it was in his name he had no choice but to go on a debt management scheme.If that wasnt bad enough we have over the past four years had extra debts due to her crawling out of the woodwork,threats of bailifs,county court notices and now to top it all off a letter from the csa saying he is in arrears of xxx for child support which we were not informed he was even meant to pay.

The csa now want regular payments on top of this and if we have to pay it means we will be left living on basically nothing .

Myself and my poor kids are suffering due to debts that we didnt make and mistakes that my partner made when he was very young. His ex has her full rent paid ,council tax , has a mobility car which belongs to her father , no debt ,and spends every weekend out drinking with her new partner. She has a great life and my family cant do any of that .

My partner recenty lost his job but if he does get work again the csa will hammer us.

We have outgoings that means we are now left with 30pwk to feed and look after a family of five and once you buy nappies and baby food ur left with nothing much

How can the csa get away with this , the Government should take into account situations like ours and possibly stop the csa payments because i am honestly at rock bottom ,if i didnt have my beautiful kids i would possibly of gave up altogether by now.

Please can someone help us ?

There are various sites around that have forums and help myself and partner run one such organisation, however due to forum rules i amnot allowed to put the website addy or it is classed as spamming,so may i suggest you google key words like " csa" " nrp" " dead beat dad" etc and it should throw up some info.
If you can't fiind anything come back and i will try to advise you on here
Tigs x

Would really be interested in looking at your website. Having so much grief with them. My partner is a NRP and they are trying to screw us for back payments after taking 9 months to work out his payments. Sent them the info required in March 09 they finally worked out a figure in July, but it took so long because they had technical problems and it wouldn't let them deal with my partners case. They allegedly try to contact him in July by phone (with a no that doesn't exist) then sent us a letter demanding the outstanding balance!!! When i said that any person with half an ounce of common sense would have written to us in July when they couldn't contact us by phone she said "we have written to you". "well i haven't received ANY correspondance from you" "yes you have, you've just received our letter!!" TOOK THEM FROM JULY TO DECEMBER TO DECIDE TO BLOODY WRITE TO US now they think that they can just demand the money and we pay!! WRONG!! I explained that we would make the regular payments every month but not pay the arrears til i had consulted my solicitor for legal advice as it's their cock up not mine. Today i get in the post an Application for Deduction of Earnings. What are you supposed to do? We gave them all the info that they requested, when they requested it, i phoned them every month until June, when i was very rudely told that i didn't need to keep phoning them they were dealing with it!! Then we get a letter with loads of back dated payments on coz A)their computers crashed (not my problem) B) they couldn't be bothered to write to us as they couldn't contact us by phone (when i hasten to add they've had our phone no since May) again NOT MY PROBLEM
fedup2009xxx

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I H At E The C S A

defo could do with some advice, CSA have got Liability order for money owed, wont acccept anything other than £250+ a month, Asked for case to be recaulculated. Partner now has Nil award but owing back maintanance. Balliffs due imminently, Can a liability order be overturned? and can i do anything to put csa on hold?

tiglet at the end of the day your issue is with your ex, NRp and NRPP issues are with the government, there is little comparrison. and whether you agree or not its mainly nrp who has the raw deal.

one issue, do you really think its fair when a disabled childs tax credits is taken from one family to give to another family? well thats the law, ctc are for the children but the government quango take this away to give to others - now is that fair? and thats just one issue