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    I have an upcoming court case regarding the MIS selling of PPIicon against wf and have been told by the court I need to submit all the evidence I want to use to the court an to wf. All I have is 3 agreements from the loans, 2 had no ppi on but when I took the 3rd loan with them I was told unless I took ppi I would be refused an increase in the loan although my circumstances hadn't changed from when I took the first loan. In my POCicon I put about the misrepresantation act and I believed the customer service person didnt have my best interests at heart etc. What else can I submit as evidence to show that the policy was MIS sold to me that will help my case. I'm also diabetic which has never been disclosed to wf as I was never asked when I took out the loan and I didnt put in my poc. Any help would gratefully be recieved as the date is getting closer and I'm panickng about it now!

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    hi wills7
    you need to put the misrepresentation act in your court bundle as a start.
    list all the letters with a complete record of all the delivery dates, ie recorded slips and the replies. that is part of it.
    produce a witness statement, which is basically a background of the main points and there is a template in the bank bundle which you can adapt.

    if you go to the stickies at the start there will be more information to get.
    you have to do 3 copies of everything , 1 for court, 1 for wf and the originals for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wills7 View Post
    I have an upcoming court case regarding the MIS selling of PPIicon against wf and have been told by the court I need to submit all the evidence I want to use to the court an to wf. All I have is 3 agreements from the loans, 2 had no ppi on but when I took the 3rd loan with them I was told unless I took ppi I would be refused an increase in the loan although my circumstances hadn't changed from when I took the first loan. In my POCicon I put about the misrepresantation act and I believed the customer service person didnt have my best interests at heart etc. What else can I submit as evidence to show that the policy was MIS sold to me that will help my case. I'm also diabetic which has never been disclosed to wf as I was never asked when I took out the loan and I didnt put in my poc. Any help would gratefully be recieved as the date is getting closer and I'm panickng about it now!
    Hello willsicon,
    The court cases are daunting but you will be fine, do as oggy suggests and maybe get a letter from your doctor regarding your diabetes

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    Where would I find a copy of the misrepresation act to print off?


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    thcheck out the stickies i think you may find something on this legislation

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...slation-2.html

    Lloyds TSB (SARS) request sent 9th June 2006
    £2191 Moneyclaim Issued 11/08/2006, Acknowleded 17th August Defence 14 Sep, AQ returned 5/10/2006.SETTLED IN FULL £2,670 26/11/2006/ Lloyds Credit Card SETTLED IN FULL £267
    MBNA SETTLED IN FULL 15/09/2006 £829
    Citicard (SARS) request sent 22nd June 2006 Moneyclaim issued 19th Sep, Defence and AQ received 5/10/2006, AQ returned 5/10/2006, part refund received 10/10/2006
    GE MONEY SETTLLED IN FULL £400
    Barclaycard Me and Mrs SARS sent 19/10/2006 settled £350
    Welcome Finance PPI 2 accounts one settled £1018 waiting on other
    GE Money PPI 1 account settled 8/5/2008 £560 2nd account SETTLED IN FULL £3,599.78p 15thAugust 2008
    Lloyds TSB PPI CC complaint sent 10/04/2008
    Black Horse PPI with FOS 20/05/2008
    HFC PPI complaint sent 22/05/2008


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    I've been looking for a template for a witness statement but am unable to find one. I roughly know what needs to go in in such as dates etc but am unsure how to lay it out an what else to put in it. I don't want to make mess of this after coming so far so would appreciate any help or a copy of a witness statement I could amend with my own details. Thank you.


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    who is representing welcome, by any chance is it a mr orill


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    A guy called chris palmer


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    a few of us, me included have taken welcome to court and won.
    througout my battle a chap called mr orill delt with the court action.
    i know he has now lost a few cases thanks to CAGicon.
    i went straight to the chief executive of cattles plc because of the way the case was being handled.
    be interested to know any welcome fighters are now dealing with a mr orill or has he parted company

    advice i can give is that welcome can be beaten, just show there failings to the court. i know in my case judge was not ammused in there lack of correct procedure


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    thanks for that I hopfull I can beat them I'm just concerned on what to put in and how to word my witness statement so any help on that would be much appreciated


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    how soon is your court date
    like you to begin with i was into areas i did not understand
    i had to put an ammendment into my POCicon as i was discovering new things every day from advice on this forum.
    the ammendment cost me £75
    i know more expense but it is well worth it.
    its obviouse your were conned into PPIicon
    even at this late stage try to find out who sold you the ppi
    then dig deeper and try to find out if they are qualified to give that financial advice.
    most welcome staff are commission based, only after a bonus.
    traind monkey can do that.
    things to ask your self, were you asked if you suffer from any medical condition that may affect pay out
    i know this may sound strange but, have you checked that you do have the insurance, welcome are only brokers. i say that from my own experience ( hint )
    do you have your SARicon
    details will be in that
    were you told the ppi would be front loaded
    get the idea

    i know its late in the day and you might be able to adjorn if needed but you have one shot at this to get it right


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    Have a look at my thread below to see how not to do it

    Mcfad vs Welcome ---- Lost in court i'm afraid

    definately check out what others have said and see try to get proof that you do not actually have the policy.

    my policy should've been taken out in 2004 but on this line of evidence welcome provided the judge in my case with a policy document which

    a, had a reference to a document that only became law in 2006
    b, had my address stated as the address in which i moved to in 2007
    c, had an address for welcome which they moved to in 2005

    but the judge still didn't take it as a made up one and beleived them over me.


    it all comes down to how you are on the day.

    best tip i could give would be to have your case 100% straight and stick to it. have all your documents neatly referenced and know where to point the judge to on every point you raise. think about some of the questions they may ask of you and know your counter arguements


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    wills7.

    Are you the same wills7 posting on the moneysavingexpert web site?

    PPI Reclaiming successes and failures - Page 29 - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums


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    yes, unfortunatley my joy as short lived as the judge ordered the judgement to be set asideicon even though wf had failed to lodge a defence in time.


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    yes, unfortunatley my joy as short lived as the judge ordered the judgement to be set asideicon even though wf had failed to lodge a defence in time.
    Sorry to hear that willsicon, wonder what would have happen if the shoe was on the other foot. I despair at the legal system, mmmm justice for all, yeah right

    Anyway carry on regardless, dont let them grind you down

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    hi willsicon , sent you my witness statement that i used against MBNAicon, hope it is ok for you to adapt.


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    Does anyone know how i should work my pre existing medical condition and about my excellent redundancyicon package and sickness pay from my employer in to my witness statement. I have a copy of my contract and benefits and i doctors note to add to my court bundle now but not sure on the wording...


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    Right then, court bundle is completed just waiting on the doctors report to confirm i DID have a pre existing medical condition when theY forced PPIicon on me when i took out the loan. I think i stand a prretty good chance now on the coule of counts i've got in favour of the misselling of the PPI..

    Wish me luck!!!


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    good luck willsicon , when is your court date?


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