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    Default Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    HI,

    Last week I sent a CCA request to CapQuest who are chasing me for a debt to Capital Oneicon. I sent with the CCA the usual £1 postal order. Today I have received a letter back, stating the following:


    " Further to your recent correspondance.
    Capquest Debt Recovery Limited can confirm that your account balance, as at: 14 May 08 is: £604.99
    TRANSACTION DATE: TRANSACTION TYPE: £
    12 MAY 08 UPO 1.00

    The above information shows the most recent history on your account."


    What do I do now? It was the standard CCA that I sent requesting the CCA with the £1.00 for the charge and not acnowledging any debt etc etc. It appears though that they have taken the £1.00 as payment! HELP HELP HELP

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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    The DCAicon putting the £1 against the balance happens quite alot,
    but tick tock the clock goes on they must by law action your CCA request.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    Thanks. I posted the letter on the 9th May. So do the 14 days apply from then? Also what do I need to do after the 14 days? Sorry Im new to this.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    From posting its 12 + 2 days for default of your CCA request, then after another calendar month they are breaking the law.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    thanks for the advise so after one calendar month they are not allowed to contact me regarding it again if they dont comply to the cca request?


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    If they continue to contact you save everything don't bin it, you may want to and should at that point file complaints with your Trading Standards office and the one closest to them.



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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    lovely thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. Happy CAGicon Day! lol


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    by the way I sent the CCA letter as I have had a letter from them saying that a default notice had been served by cap oneicon on the 31st oct 2002 and is due to expire on the 29th October 2008. But they have said that they are going to start legal proceedings which will then stay on my account for 6 yearsicon.

    So I sent the CCA to ask for the orginal docs and to try and delay things


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    Almost sure they sholudn't do that as I read somewhere it can only be defaulted once. Not 100% I'm sure someone will correct me it looks like a last ditched attempt to get it before its statute barredicon.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    When did you last pay anything or acknowledge the alleged debt? More than 6 yearsicon ago?


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    I havent acknowleged or paid anything since the 31st oct 2002.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    Ok - I thought it might have been earlier than that if they defaulted you then.

    The DCAicon thinking you have paid £1 and restarting the 6 year clock might make them put the account on the back burner - not a bad result maybe ... but keep all of your letters to show what the pound was for!


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    it probably was earlier, but I cant remember. Can I apply for an account to be statue barred? I was just thinking that if they dont do anything before October 2008, can I then do something to close it etc?


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    should I write a letter to the DCAicon reconfirming what the £1 was for?


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    They often put the £1 on the account balance. I'd wait for arrival of the cca for now.

    If at a later stage they claim the £1 is admission of the debt ...

    Send them something that looks like this :

    Rory32

    I do not acknowledge any debt to your company. I have noted that the one pound administration charge I recently sent you for supply a true copy of the agreement on this alleged account has been applied to the account. Please either use the £1 to pay for this administration or refund the £1 accordingly. You have applied this £1 under false pretences and I will dispute that any lawful payment has been made by me.

    Please note I have copies of all correspondence. I would also bring you attention to the Theft (amendmenticon) Act 1996.
    2. - (1) After section 24 of the Theft Act 1968 insert-
    "Dishonestly retaining a wrongful credit. 24A. - (1) A person is guilty of an offence if-

    (a) a wrongful credit has been made to an account kept by him or in respect of which he has any right or interesticon;
    (b) he knows or believes that the credit is wrongful; and
    (c) he dishonestly fails to take such steps as are reasonable in the circumstances to secure that the credit is cancelled.



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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    What you should do thou, is hit them with a complaint regarding the cca.. ie if they still continue to ask for money. This will force them to address the situation of the non supply of the cca . If they say you did not send a request ie they are mis-using your £1 to act as a token payment and acknowledgment of the debt, then go ahead with the theft amendmenticon issue.

    So , a complaint asap {anytime after it goes into dispute}. Im sure they won't stop pursuing or asking for monies , so send this when they do.


    Dear Sirs,


    Account no xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    NOTICE OF FORMAL COMPLAINT


    Re: my request under the Consumer Credit Act 1974


    You attention is drawn to the fact that this account is subject to a serious dispute. On xx/xx/2007 I requested ********supply me a copy of the credit agreement covering this account pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974 section 78 that you have a duty to supply either as equitable or as absolute assignees of this account under CCA s(175,189) . To date ******** have failed to comply with my request and have totally ignored my written reminders sent via recorded delivery of this fact. Without production of the said agreement I am unable to assess if I am indeed liable for any alleged debt to you or *******, nor does it give me any chance to evaluate whether any original agreement was ‘properly executed’ as required by the Consumer Credit Act 1974


    For the avoidance of any doubt I have included section 78(1) and 78(6) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which states…

    78 Duty to give information to debtor under running-account credit agreement
    (1) The creditor under a regulated agreement for running-account credit, within the prescribed period after receiving a request in writing to that effect from the debtor and payment of a fee of [£1], shall give the debtor a copy of the executed agreement (if any) and of any other document referred to in it, together with a statement signed by or on behalf of the creditor showing, according to the information to which it is practicable for him to refer,—
    (a) the state of the account, and
    (b) the amount, if any, currently payable under the agreement by the debtor to the creditor, and
    (c) the amounts and due dates of any payments which, if the debtor does not draw further on the account, will later become payable under the agreement by the debtor to the creditor.
    (6) If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)—
    (a) he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement; and
    (b) if the default continues for one month he commits an offence.



    Clearly as no agreement was supplied on request, this in no way complies with the requirements of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and I now draw your attention to section 78 subsection 6 which states If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection (1) he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement;


    May I draw your attention to the Office of Fair Trading’s guidance on debt collectionicon

    The OFT guidance which was issued July 2003 (updated December 2006) relating to debt collections and what the OFT considers unfair, I have enclosed an excerpt from page 5 of the guidance which states

    Examples of unfair practices are as follows:

    2.6{h} Ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment.

    2.8{k} Not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt.

    Due to your failure to comply with the above guidelines , please supply me with a copy of your complaints procedure by return of post.

    What I Require.

    I require that you send me a true copy of the executed agreement as required by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 . If you are unable to supply the requested documentation because no such agreement is in existence I require written clarification as such.

    I require that you comply with my request within 7 days of the date of this letter. I will not correspond any further with you until I either receive a copy of the requested documents as laid down in section 78(1) CCA 74 or clarification that such agreement doesn’t exist. I am advised that should you persist in pursuing this debt ignoring the above information you will be in breach of the Administration of Justice Act 1970 section 40 as well


    I trust this outlines the situation
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    Adapted from Template

    ---

    This will force their hand in addressing their non compliance and to put into writing their position on furnishing you with the cca as they will have to address that part to explain why they are not adhering to the OFT guidelines. Then you'll know what they are doing with the £1. The other thing of course, is they must have received your letter by knowing which account to add the £1 transaction to, therby admitting they did actually receive the cca request, if you used a postal order.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    Today I rhave received another letter from capquest. This one says:

    "Further to recent contact with our office and your request for further information in relation to the above account, we would confirm that your account is now on hold for 28 days whilst we obtain the information required.

    If you have any proof of payments or correspondence that would assist with your query, please forward these documents, with a breif covering letter, to our Collections Administration department, so that we can resolve this matter as soon as possible."

    Firstly, obviously Im not going to send any proof of payment or covering letter as its up to them to find any relevant information, and Secondly, dont they only have 14 days to reply to the CCA request, not 28? The 14 days (12+2) expires Friday next week.

    Any help appreciated.


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    Default Re: Advise Needed. CCA request sent and have had a letter back??

    after the 12 + 2 working days they are in default of your request

    After a further 30 calendar days they commit a summarry criminal offence

    after this there are lots of things they cannot do to you including demanding money, selling the debt, adding interesticon or charges etc etc..............but someone more learned than me will no doubt tell you exactly what they can and cannot do



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