Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.
The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights
a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.
The most usual uniform is a bald head, visible tattoos and a leather jacket. This is usually accompanied by a menacing demeanour.
Lol, this one was a 90 year old goat staggering around a car park writing tickets left right & centre i was watching him while the wife was shopping, i dont like him anyway as he kindly slapped a bit of paper on my windscreen a while ago.
One near here is employed by euro car parks. He should wear his big yellow jacket, but we have fun wathcing him on camera as he 'pounces' from his car, runs over to the 'offending vehicle' and slaps on the ticket he has just written in his car.
He them goes and hides for about ten mins, just in case the 'offender' comes back!!!. We have had several people come into our store and ask for security. We have great pleasure in pointing out where he is hiding !
We would really like an 'information sheet', as explaining the 'you dont have to pay these' to customers gets really boring after a while. Anyone want to put something together ?
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, although private sector enforcement officers should really look presentable whenever possible. At the very least a hi-vis jacket with the name of the enforcement agency and a flat cap in honour of parking enforcement tradition.
"Private sector enforcement OFFICERS" ??
they sound really important
Call them what they really are : [problem] operatives!!
arnold hawk:- what you sat re uniforms may carry some weight in a legally operated scheme. In my case, the ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS (unemployable by most of industry & commerce) were wearing uniforms which closely resembled Dundee City Council official parking officers. The sticky envelope used to affix invoice to windscreen also bore close resemblance to the official ones. Crime--Intent to deceive?????? Impersonating a council official?????
arnold hawk:- what you sat re uniforms may carry some weight in a legally operated scheme. In my case, the ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS (unemployable by most of industry & commerce) were wearing uniforms which closely resembled Dundee City Council official parking officers. The sticky envelope used to affix invoice to windscreen also bore close resemblance to the official ones. Crime--Intent to deceive?????? Impersonating a council official?????
Most of the LA ones near me look like PCSOs maybe they are impersonating a Police Officer!? There is no offence of impersonating a Parking Attendant anymore than there is of impersonating a Bus driver!
Fraud by false representation (Section 2)
The elements of the offence
The elements of the offence are that the Defendant:
made
a false representation
dishonestly
knowing that the representation was or might be untrue or misleading
with intent to make a gain for himself or another, to cause loss to another or to expose another to risk of loss.
The offence is entirely offender focused. It is complete as soon as the Defendant makes a false representation, provided that it is made with the necessary dishonest intent. It differs from the deception offences in that it is immaterial whether or not any one is cognisant of the representation, deceived or any property actually gained or lost.
Made (a false representation)
A representation may be express or implied (Section 2 (4)). It can be stated in words or communicated by conduct. There is no limitation on the way in which the representation must be expressed. It could be written, spoken, posted on a phishing website, spoken into a dictaphone or sent by email. A representation is implied by conduct when a person uses a credit card dishonestly. By tendering the card, he is falsely representing that he has the authority to use it for that transaction. A representation can be made through body language - a nod of the head, presence in a restricted area implying the right to be there (including presence within a secure computer system) or being dressed or wearing identification that implies a certain status or right to be present. A representation can be about identity - using a false identity to open a bank account.
Fraud by false representation (Section 2)
The elements of the offence
The elements of the offence are that the Defendant:
made
a false representation
dishonestly
knowing that the representation was or might be untrue or misleading
with intent to make a gain for himself or another, to cause loss to another or to expose another to risk of loss.
The offence is entirely offender focused. It is complete as soon as the Defendant makes a false representation, provided that it is made with the necessary dishonest intent. It differs from the deception offences in that it is immaterial whether or not any one is cognisant of the representation, deceived or any property actually gained or lost.
Made (a false representation)
A representation may be express or implied (Section 2 (4)). It can be stated in words or communicated by conduct. There is no limitation on the way in which the representation must be expressed. It could be written, spoken, posted on a phishing website, spoken into a dictaphone or sent by email. A representation is implied by conduct when a person uses a credit card dishonestly. By tendering the card, he is falsely representing that he has the authority to use it for that transaction. A representation can be made through body language - a nod of the head, presence in a restricted area implying the right to be there (including presence within a secure computer system) or being dressed or wearing identification that implies a certain status or right to be present. A representation can be about identity - using a false identity to open a bank account.
That is only relevant if a fraud has been commited patrolling a car park and giving out invoices is not a fraudulent act. Using your strange sense of logic all PCSOs should be arrested for impersonating a Police Officer since their uniform implies they have the powers of a Police Officer which in most instances they do not.
Using your strange sense of logic all PCSOs should be arrested for impersonating a Police Officer
Now there's a thought for getting rid of plastic policemen
since their uniform implies they have the powers of a Police Officer which in most instances they do not.
All instances. PCSO have limited powers of their own; they do not have any powers granted to a Police Constable. There (and should remain) an entirely separate entity, with powers granted by Parliament via the Chief Constable.
That is only relevant if a fraud has been commited patrolling a car park and giving out invoices is not a fraudulent act. Using your strange sense of logic all PCSOs should be arrested for impersonating a Police Officer since their uniform implies they have the powers of a Police Officer which in most instances they do not.
piffle and tosh frankly. and a poor attempt to duck the issue.
Fraud act covers all aspects:- The elements of the offence are that the Defendant:
made
a false representation
dishonestly
knowing that the representation was or might be untrue or misleading
with intent to make a gain for himself or another, to cause loss to another or to expose another to risk of loss.
The entire paperchain, the websites, the 'uniforms', the entire 'message' from the PPCs clearly is in play.
Has anyone ever seen a ticket/begging letter from the PPCs that actually does not mislead or misrepresent ? No they have not.
Now there's a thought for getting rid of plastic policemen
All instances. PCSO have limited powers of their own; they do not have any powers granted to a Police Constable. There (and should remain) an entirely separate entity, with powers granted by Parliament via the Chief Constable.
They have the power to issue FPN which is the instance they have similar power to the Police.
They have the power to issue FPN which is the instance they have similar power to the Police.
It may be pedantic I know but although it may be similar, it is not a Police power.
It is a power specifically granted to PCSO by legislation; it is not an extension of police powers. the circumstances where a PCSO can issue an FPN are strictly limited and relate to specific legislation.
Conversely, a Police Officer may issue a wide variety of FPNs, endorseable or otherwise, at his discretion.
For example, for speeding any COPF must be issued by a Police Officer - it cannot be issued by a civilian employee of the SCP or a PCSO - they do not have the necessary power.
Green & mean:- I beg to differ old son. Impersonating a traffic warden probably is not an offence, but I said a Council Official. To impersonate such a person for gain or to intimidate, is a crime. The warden is a bona fide council representative, with certain powers that stand in law.
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Originally Posted by PPC Buster
There is no offence of impersonating a Parking Attendant anymore than there is of impersonating a Bus driver!