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    Default DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Hi all, Abbeyicon have no complied to my Subject access requesticon under the data protection act. Is it still the advised course of action to make a claim in the county courticon for breach of the DPA? Is this the best way to get the information ? What are the other ways ? Also, on the particulars of claim template theres a section on monetary claim/damages. There really is none other than a bit of extra time and effort, should I enter a token amount or shall I not bother requesting money but just ask for a charge for release of the request info ?


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Well I just phoned Abbeyicon in the hope that maybe I could avoid thecourt route. The customer services rep put me on hold, spoke to the Data protection team...(of which i asked to be put through to but that never happened ). They said that its on microfiche etc and that it takes time and that the request was activated on the 5th of may ( 2 months ago ) my original request was on the 4th of april! I told them I wanted amicable resolution but that I had already sent a letter before actionicon and was going to take the breach of data protection act to the courts. She told me that as microfiche was not a relevant filing system they were not held by the 40 day rule (blah blah etc ). For those that have gone down this route has anyone had to actually argue it in court or do abbey all of a sudden magic up the documents! ?

    Court here I come this arvo methinks.


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    have a read of this thread - should give you an idea of what to expect ?

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ole-abbey.html


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Hi folks, many thanks Karnevil I've read that thread and posted in it also but am still unsure as to the current state of play so any clarification basically as to whether a claim for non compliance of a Subject access requesticon is still advised would be appreciated muchly

    I went into the court today to start a claim against Abbeyicon, I filled it all in and it wasn't until the end that the lady told me that because the claim was not monetary ( well I added in a £20 token claim for time and expenses ) but that the main claim is for Abbey to comply with the data protection act. Because of that I was told it was a 'part 8' form and that the fee was £150 !

    I explained what I knew in regards to other people getting it done for £30 on a n1 form and she said it was still possible that I file the claim in another court. Has anyone got experience of this ? I decieded to take the forms home and ask you guys what you thought before I jumped in to anything.

    Could someone who has successfully filed a breach of DPA claim tell me what court they did it with so that I can file it there aswell ( as abbey are a plc you can file it in any court in the country ). Or if someone has some info/arguement that I can use with my local court and get them to put it through on the n1 ? Then that would also be appreciated.


    Many thanks folks!


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Hi khronus

    I had the same problem as you. Please have a read of my thread.

    I eventually just provided the court with a similar cases claim number, they checked it on their systems to see how it was handled and rang the other court and eventually took the form.

    The problem arises if they havent seen this type of claim before.
    You need to be persistant. I also told them that i am a member of the Banking Action Group and am aware of a number of other cases that have been filed on an N1 form.


    Hope this helps

    Good Luck

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    ABBEY
    DPALetter received by bank on 100406.
    £10 Cheque cashed by shABBEY on 200406.
    14 statements received between 8-10 0506.
    40 day limit reached on 19/5/06.
    LBA sent special delivery on 20/5/06
    7 days up on the 270506 for the LBA
    Prelim approach for repayment for an estimated amt sent. 14 days up on the 200606.
    DPAorder for NON-Compliance served 220606. Expires 060706
    Final LBA sent, 14 days will be up on the 060706.
    Defence from shABBEY received for DPANon compliance 050706
    Financial claim deemed served to shABBEY on the 220706
    AQ for DPANon Compliance handed in to court on 24706
    Defence and 50% offer for Financial claim received 140806
    AQ for Financial Claim received 170806
    AQ for finacial claim handed in 010906
    Hearing 4 amended claim 270906
    Fast track Allocation 270906
    Disclosure ordered 191006
    shabbey failed to disclose 191006

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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Many thanks for the help but I dont think it will be quickerand easier to just send it to a court where they are processing these without arguement. Could someone that has done this successfully give me the address of the court they did it through please?


    Many thanks folks!


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Hi

    I think you misunderstood...i have successfully handed this into my local court but not without persistance.

    So your county courticon can call up and check with

    Clerkenwell County Court
    Derby County Court
    Mayor’s and City of London County Court

    to see how this should be processed. Im sure there are many other courts but these are the 3 that come to mind.

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    DPALetter received by bank on 100406.
    £10 Cheque cashed by shABBEY on 200406.
    14 statements received between 8-10 0506.
    40 day limit reached on 19/5/06.
    LBA sent special delivery on 20/5/06
    7 days up on the 270506 for the LBA
    Prelim approach for repayment for an estimated amt sent. 14 days up on the 200606.
    DPAorder for NON-Compliance served 220606. Expires 060706
    Final LBA sent, 14 days will be up on the 060706.
    Defence from shABBEY received for DPANon compliance 050706
    Financial claim deemed served to shABBEY on the 220706
    AQ for DPANon Compliance handed in to court on 24706
    Defence and 50% offer for Financial claim received 140806
    AQ for Financial Claim received 170806
    AQ for finacial claim handed in 010906
    Hearing 4 amended claim 270906
    Fast track Allocation 270906
    Disclosure ordered 191006
    shabbey failed to disclose 191006

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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    I know thats a possibility but it could be more effort than its worth wheras I could just send it to one of these courts. I shall googl the addressof the courts you mention, thankyou!


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Could you pm me your case number incase I do deciede to argue it with the local court, I can give them another claim reference then.


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Hi Khronus,

    You can find them in the litigation section.

    Hope that helps

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    DPALetter received by bank on 100406.
    £10 Cheque cashed by shABBEY on 200406.
    14 statements received between 8-10 0506.
    40 day limit reached on 19/5/06.
    LBA sent special delivery on 20/5/06
    7 days up on the 270506 for the LBA
    Prelim approach for repayment for an estimated amt sent. 14 days up on the 200606.
    DPAorder for NON-Compliance served 220606. Expires 060706
    Final LBA sent, 14 days will be up on the 060706.
    Defence from shABBEY received for DPANon compliance 050706
    Financial claim deemed served to shABBEY on the 220706
    AQ for DPANon Compliance handed in to court on 24706
    Defence and 50% offer for Financial claim received 140806
    AQ for Financial Claim received 170806
    AQ for finacial claim handed in 010906
    Hearing 4 amended claim 270906
    Fast track Allocation 270906
    Disclosure ordered 191006
    shabbey failed to disclose 191006

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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    what was the upshot of all this? did you ever send them the Non compliance letter or take them to court?

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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    I was wondering that myself.


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Im in the same position.

    Small Claims court refused to hear the case.

    Quite, quite wrong.

    Did the European Court intend that Data Subjects put themselves at risk of costs in a county courticon while simply seeking to enforce their SARicon?


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    WHAT?? why on earth did they refuse to hear the case? its small claims, there is no risk to the subject

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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    The court refused to hear the case because the Data Protection Act says DPA cases should be heard in the County or High Courts.

    Bizarre.

    The judge adjourned my case, saying that she would reconsider if I could give case law where a small claims court allowed an S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) enforcement to be heard.


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    Default Re: DPA non complaince, court claim, still best option ?

    Judge said she would transfer my claim to the county courticon.

    Where I would of course be at risk of getting costs awarded against me.

    The barrister at this directions hearing said they would be relying on Durant as a defence.

    I told them good luck.


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    Oh- this was after they failed to put a defence in, admitted liability and paid the sum I claimed in damages.

    This is a DCAicon. They provided the phone callicon log and nothing else. I want all personal dataicon they hold on me.



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