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    Default request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refused?

    i requested an original copy of the agreement from barclay card under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1), they sent a statement and a copy of the application form, but refused a copy of the deed of assignment claiming it is a commercially sensative document, is this a breech of my rights or can they do that, also not excactly sure what a deed of assignment is

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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    erm i thought they were not allowed to refuse you to see your credit agreement. I would get back to them saying that you still require your credit agreement and that under the circumsatances you are not pying your bill untill they supply u with it. If they send you a demand then contact the ts office and supply them with a copy of everything you have.


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    how can it be commercially sensetive. its an agreement. think they are getting there wires crossed a bit.


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    Quote Originally Posted by vogelrok View Post
    how can it be commercially sensetive. its an agreement. think they are getting there wires crossed a bit.
    Yep tolally agree with you there its either wires crossed or summing else like they dont have one so they are trying it on.


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    As the Deed of Assignment is NOT covered by a CCA request they are completely within their rights to refuse to supply you.
    All the CCA covers is the executed agreement and a statement of account showing amounts owing and payment schedule.

    The DoA part of the request is only really useful when sending a CCA to a DCAicon to prove that they can collect a debt.

    Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    curly,

    Just want to clarify summing. A company can refuse to send you a cca request as it is a deed of assigment?

    Sorry to ask a stupid question but this has now confused me.


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    Presumably the deed of assignment shows the paltry amount they sold the debt for which is why it is commercially sensitive


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    GM, sorry but I think you are getting confused.
    Here's the wording for CCA74 s77
    77.—(1) The creditor under a regulated agreement for fixed sum credit, within the
    prescribed period after receiving a request in writing to that effect from the debtor and
    payment of a fee of one pound, shall give the debtor a copy of the executed
    agreement (if any) and of any other document referred to in it, together with a
    statement signed by or on behalf of the creditor showing, according to the information
    to which it is practicable for him to refer,—
    **(a) the total sum paid under the agreement by the debtor;
    **(b) the total sum which has become payable under the agreement by the debtor but
    remains unpaid, and the various amounts comprised in that total sum, with the
    date when each became due: and
    **(c) the total sum which is to became payable under the agreement by the debtor,
    and the various amounts comprised in that total sum, with the date, or mode of
    determining the date, when each becomes due.

    (2) If the creditor possesses insufficient information to enable him to ascertain the
    amounts and dates mentioned in subsection (l)(c), he shall be taken to comply with
    that paragraph if his statement under subsection (1) gives the basis on which, under
    the regulated agreement, they would fall to be ascertained.

    (3) Subsection (1) does not apply to—
    **(a) an agreement under which no sum is, or will or may become, payable by the
    debtor, or
    **(b) a request made less than one month after a previous request under that
    subsection relating to the same agreement was complied with.

    (4) If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)—
    **(a) he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement;
    and
    **(b) if the default continues for one month he commits an offence.

    (5) This section does not apply to a non-commercial agreement.
    As you can see there is NO mention of the DoA at all.

    The DoA is merely the legal paperwork for the OC to sell the debt to the DCAicon.
    As Goldlady mentioned it may refer to the value that the DCA paid for the debt.

    Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    So the company was not allowed to refuse to send him a true copy of his cca even tho they think they can?


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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    Hi I think the misconception here is the CCA request this is what you are entitled to receive :-
    A 'true' copy of your credit agreement and any document referred to in it. You are also entitled to request a signed statement showing the status and balance of your account and the sum required to discharge your indebtedness.

    As far as I know the Deed of assignment is not covered by the CCA 1974 request.

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    Default Re: request under request under the Consumer Credit Act sections 77(1) and 78(1) refu

    thank you dpick. I thought something was wrong when they said that but i got confussed by the deed of assigmnent.



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