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    Default Derby PCN

    Hi,

    thgis is my first post ever so forgive me if I seem dumb please.

    I received a pcnicon on my dashboard after being 10 mins late back to my car in Derby, and I am wondering if there are any loopholes to avoid paying this stealth tax? I have 14 days to pay it or appeal. All I can see so far is that the signatureicon is a mere line, and the date field at the top simply says: "Served on: 10/04/2008"

    "Code 05"

    "Date of contravenbtion 10/04/2008"
    "Time of contravention: 11:20"
    "Location: Bramble Street, Macklin st Area"

    Then all details about my car, then " A penalty charge of £50 is now payable and must be paid not later than the last day of the period 28 days beginning with the date on which this PCN was served (i.e 07/05/2008)"

    "See reverse for how to pay, how to challenge this PCN, what haapppenss if no payment is made"

    Then underneath is a detachable section which says the PCN no., "served on: 10/04/2008 at 11.21

    my reg again, then "contravention: Parked after the expiry of paid for time

    "Code 05"

    Anyone think theres any way out of this one?

    Thanks very much for any help

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    Default Re: Derby PCN

    is this a local authority pcnicon or a private parking company?

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    Default Re: Derby PCN

    Sounds fully compliant with the TMA to me.


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    Default Re: Derby PCN

    What even
    period 28 days beginning with the date on which this pcnicon was served (i.e 07/05/2008")
    When it seems it was issued on 10/04/08
    OP may have made an error...


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    Default Re: Derby PCN

    Quote Originally Posted by adamna View Post
    What even
    When it seems it was issued on 10/07/08
    OP may have made an error...
    Issued 10/4/08 = Day 1
    7/5/08 = Day 28

    If I was the OP I would ask for a copy of the TRO giving rise to the restrictions and I would take a look at the bay markings against the requirements of TSRGD.


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    Default Re: Derby PCN

    Ah! OK then, what was the pcnicon doing on the dashboard? Was the window open?


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    I was the OP I would ask for a copy of the TRO giving rise to the restrictions and I would take a look at the bay markings against the requirements of TSRGD

    I dont understand the above please can you explain?

    Thanks for all the replies. Sorry for saying the dashboard when I meant windscreen , I did warn you I could be dumb though!

    Its a Derby council thing, not a private one.

    Thanks again


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    Quote Originally Posted by argyle81 View Post
    I was the OP I would ask for a copy of the TRO giving rise to the restrictions and I would take a look at the bay markings against the requirements of TSRGD

    I dont understand the above please can you explain?

    Thanks for all the replies. Sorry for saying the dashboard when I meant windscreen , I did warn you I could be dumb though!

    Its a Derby council thing, not a private one.

    Thanks again
    TRO = Traffic Regulation Order. The "Law" that allows restrictions to be enforced

    TSRGD = Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions. That specify how signs etc and parking bays are to be marked.

    See this web site:
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    Oh just had a quick thought - Does it matter if some of it (the pcnicon) is faded?

    You can hardly read where it says Bramble Street, and the till roll was obviously about to expire (he must have been busy!) as it has a pink bar all down the middle of the ticket.

    Does this make any difference?

    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by argyle81 View Post
    Oh just had a quick thought - Does it matter if some of it (the pcnicon) is faded?

    You can hardly read where it says Bramble Street, and the till roll was obviously about to expire (he must have been busy!) as it has a pink bar all down the middle of the ticket.

    Does this make any difference?

    Thanks
    I think the point would be is that you CAN read it says Bramble st, if you couldn't it would be a different matter.



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