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Can someone help? I've received a letter from the police claiming that I have been over the speed limit and as a result of this they want me to name the driver at the specified date and time on top of that they want to give me 3 points+ £60 fine+ court ,,the car does not belong to me,,,it was a rented vehicle.
is there anything I can do to avoid the 3 points on my license? I've never had any points on my license? How should i respond to the letter? shall i go to court and defend my self? or ignore?
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
Have to agree with the others: rental company will have a duty to notify police of driver/hiree at the time, and clearly this was you.
3 points and £60 for breaking the speed limit? Assuming you did, then to be honest I do not think you have much to complain about...that is a fair and reasonable punishment, and hopefully it will make you think again before going that bit too fast in the future...
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
I got three points in 1986...so that makes me 22 years...
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
Originally Posted by SupermanX
Hi
Can someone help? I've received a letter from the police claiming that I have been over the speed limit and as a result of this they want me to name the driver at the specified date and time on top of that they want to give me 3 points+ £60 fine+ court ,,the car does not belong to me,,,it was a rented vehicle.
is there anything I can do to avoid the 3 points on my license? I've never had any points on my license? How should i respond to the letter? shall i go to court and defend my self? or ignore?
Thanks
right long shot here,
what was the instrument they used to catch you.
we all know garret 20/20's are next to flippin useless and are callibrated with a pitch fork and washing machine (forget about self calibration this is even worse)
Fixed cameras are shoddy and mobile units can in certain circumstances be inacurate, instances like when you turn them on and when you use them!!
Have you asked for photographic evidence of the offence
you can also ask for under the freedom of information act ask for,
callibration certificates and maintenance records of equipment used(moblie and fixed)
Training records of the officer or person concerned in the use of the
equipment and a copy of the certificate of competence issued.
poket book notes of the siting and setting up of mobile units
Positioning of other cars (mobile, may have metered someone else)
weather conditions at the time (mobile, fixed direct sunlight affects readings)
Direction of source and destination if you were followed (chase unit)
Distance of track and continued space beteween (chase)
Written details of the partnerships procedures for the use of mobile
Speed cameras and laser detectors.(mobile, fixed)
you are entitled to ask for this lot for your defence.
Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
I'm one of the good guys - 26 years without a blemish on my licence.
Superman - you didn't actually answer the question. Did you exceed the speed limit?
The current ACPO guidlines allow for speedo error and suggest that 10% + 2mph is the tolerance for speeding, so in a 30 mph limit you would not be prosecuted for doing 35 or less, in a 40 that would be 46mph and in a 70 that would be 79mph.
This is likely to be replaced in the near future with a flat 5mph tolerance.
Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
A notice has been received by a friend of mine for what appears to be the same offence. I immediatley thought id log onto CAG as generally there some pretty clever people nocking round this site. It appears on this particular post there are a load of camera operators saying tough pay up. There are ongoing arguments as to the infringement of human rights regarding the completion of the notice of intention of prosecution under section 172 of the road and traffic act. "You have the right to remain silent" yet on this form you are asked to incriminate yourself or face a further penalty should you challenge the offence and fail. Does nt seem quite correct regardless whether the offence was committed or not. High flyers and celebritys appear to have no problem "getting off" speeding offences guilty or not using expensive solicitors.. If there is a loophole for these cash generators then lets pool resources to find it. I am not condoning dangerous driving just the legality of the process.
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
Then if you were doing 38 the penalty is correct and you have no choice but to accept it.
In response to Tumbles allegation that we are a load of camera operators, well what a load of genitals. In my opinion, 38 in a 30 does constitute dangerous or at least careless driving. The driver has a responsibility to be aware of his vehicle and it's surroundings at all times.
Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
After holding a clean license for 19 years, I recently got caught on camera doing 36 in a 30. I've had the option of the £60 fine plus three points OR going on a speed awareness course, which costs £67 but you don't get any points. I'm going to take that option then I'll still have my "clean" license!!
I am usually very good at sticking to speed limits, but this was a fairly built up area and a dual carriage way --- I thought the limit was 40 :o
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
To quote "Ignorance is no defence"
I was caught doing 46 in a 40 zone, kids fighting in the back, didn't keep my eye on the speedo. I got 3 points and a £20 pound fine (early '80s)
My own fault. I accepted it.
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Re: Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
Originally Posted by revolting peasant
The current ACPO guidlines allow for speedo error and suggest that 10% + 2mph is the tolerance for speeding, so in a 30 mph limit you would not be prosecuted for doing 35 or less
Really?
I know people who've been done for doing 31mph and 32mph ....
Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help
,,the car does not belong to me,,,it was a rented vehicle.
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