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    Default Once unenforceable, then what?

    Hi everyone

    I have been reading lots of threads on this great forum for the past few days and 1 thing that I can't really seem to find the answer to is this:

    I get the part about sending the CCA etc and the time limits imposed on the DCAicon's and Creditors.

    If they can't provide a valid CCA, then the debt is unenforceable.

    What generally is the next process, as the debt still exists?

    I am currently on a dmpicon with CCCS, what impact will sending a CCA have on this, if any and what type of Creditors can you not CCA?

    Many Thanks in Advance

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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    After 12 WORKING days the "debt" is in default and stays that way until the request is complied with. While in default NO enforcement activity can take place.
    If a FURTHER month passes then the DCAicon has committed a summary criminal offence and the matter should be referred to Trading Standards for action once the DCA continues to demand payment.


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    Thanks for the reply

    Do you have insight as to what positive action comes from contacting TS after the time period is up.

    Because the debt is unenforceable, but still exists, what action can the OC take?

    Thanks Again

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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    Reporting to Trading Standards is an important step because one day they might do there job and go after these DCAicon's.

    Just ranting, don't mind me just letting some steam off because getting TS to act in my instance has/is not easy as my thread explains.


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    I had a dmpicon with CCCS until last November - they don't like any creditor having preference over any other creditor. I cancelled my plan, CCAd them all and within 4 months 7 DCAs had closed files, writing off £23000. I am only sorry I didn't do it sooner.


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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    Quote Originally Posted by nblaen View Post
    After 12 WORKING days the "debt" is in default and stays that way until the request is complied with. While in default NO enforcement activity can take place.
    If a FURTHER month passes then the DCAicon has committed a summary criminal offence and the matter should be referred to Trading Standards for action once the DCA continues to demand payment.
    Gee I recognise this C&P

    Also after filing reports with TS etc for non-compliance you may want to consider court action under a142 of CCA.

    Quote Originally Posted by CCA s142
    .—(1) Where under any provision of this Act a thing can be done by a creditor or
    owner on an enforcement order only, and either—
    (a) the court dismisses (except on technical grounds only) an application for an
    enforcement order, or
    (b) where no such application has been made or such an application has been
    dismissedicon on technical grounds only, an interested party applies to the court for
    a declaration under this subsection
    the court may if it thinks just make a declaration that the creditor or owner is not
    entitled to do that thing, and thereafter no application for an enforcement order in
    respect of it shall be entertained.
    (2) Where—
    (a) a regulated agreement or linked transaction is cancelled under section 69(1), or
    becomes subject to section 69(2), or
    (b) a regulated agreement is terminated under section 91,
    and an interested party applies to the court for a declaration under this subsection, the
    court may make a declaration. to that effect.
    This is the FINAL nail in the coffin of an unenforceable agreement.

    Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    Hi Pinky, that is interesting.

    You say that 7 DCAicon's had closed files, but would this not then revert back to the OC for them to then deal with?

    Thanks


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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    Thanks CurlyBen

    Am I right in assuming then, that because you have CCA'd the DCAicon/OC and the debt is unenforceable and have also lodged a complaint with TS, then more than likely the court action will be in our favour?

    Sorry if these questions seem a bit much, but I am trying to get a clear picture in my mind of the whole process.


    Thanks Again


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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    No - in my cases the DCAs had bought the debts - but otherwise they could have been passed back to the OC then passed on to another agency. Then is is just a case of telling the new agency that the account is in disputeicon and they can bog off.


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    Default Re: Once unenforceable, then what?

    Be careful when DCAicon's claim to of purchased these debts as they are often on a "Sale or Return" biases.

    Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too


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