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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Hi everyone

 

I thought I would start this thread as I have just been charged 50.8p a litre for domestic heating oil. I live in the Western Isles.

 

This worked out at £592 for a tank of oil and is the third time its been filled in 14 months- seems very expensive to me. In addition to the heating oil, I obviously have to pay electricity for all of the other appliances in the house.

 

I work and I am fortunate as I earn a reasonable wage. I am at a loss to understand how people on lower incomes can afford to heat their homes by domestic heating oil. Oil is also not the most efficient means of heating, dependent on the type of boiler appliance in use.

 

I imagine this thread will apply to people resident in rural areas mainly, but you may have a relative or friend who is affected or work in a related industry eg heating installation, Energy Advice Centre, CAB, etc.

 

I am also interested in finding out regional variations in the price of heating oil and tracking price rises over a period of time.

 

You may have heard of the Governments Warm Front central heating programme (administered by EAGA in England and Wales) and the Scottish Governments Warm Deal and Central Heating Programme (administered by Scottish Gas). Both these programmes provide a grant towards a new heating system and insulation where appropriate for qualifying households. I am all for choice, but should an oil heating system be included in the programme if the costs of running it are so high and prices are only likely to increase. The promotion of oil heating systems does nothing to take vulnerable people out of fuel poverty. It is difficult to shop around for cheaper deals for oil, in the same manner as switching power utilities.

 

I am interested in comments, advice and suggestions which may be of benefit to others.

 

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Hi Kenny you have a very valid point, being a heating engineer I hear this quite a lot but TBH I cant recall any costs they mentioned except that they were HIGH. A friend of mine who lived in a farm had a main gas pipe 120 yards away and after deciding to look into the costs of having a connection from it he was shocked to find out the costs were £12,000 plus. Its got to be a deciding factor when people buy properties these days, sorry cant input any more.

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Kenny, did you get any further with your research? I'm in a similar position, no mains gas, so around 11 yrs ago bought and installed an oil fired system. Just bought 1000 litres of 28 sec oil, at 47.65p + 5% VAT. Prices I was quoted varied from 47p (delivered 1st week in April - too late!) to 50.95p. I should imagine you would be paying at least a few pence more than that, given your location - I'm in NW Wales.

Just wondering whether it would pay to replace my boiler. It runs perfectly well and has done except for replacing the circuit board for the burner once. Was never professionally comissioned, so may not be set up for the optimum economy.

What's needed is the cost of producing one standard unit of heat, with different fuels. I was told the other day (but find it difficult to believe) that electric heating would cost me about half what I pay now. Somebody must have some figures, surely?

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Hi pg.

 

I think a good service would help if you are going to keep the boiler. It is a stove we have which acts as a cooker and also provides central heating/ heats the hot water- like an aga. We currently rent our house and the system is covered by a maintenance contract. It broke down over the weekend, but is now working better than ever after being fixed and having a service. Perhaps that would work for you.

 

I can believe what you were told about electric costs, particularly if it was on the right tariff.

 

(All prices I have quoted are also ex 5% VAT.)

 

A colleague just paid 56.4p a litre, today. (Yes, the price is higher due to our location. Diesel is £1.19 l).

 

Her price is a rise from my purchase price of 50.8p of 05.6p a litre or 9.9%, in 2 weeks. The last tank of oil at £562 would now cost £626, an extra £62.

 

I have found price comparison web sites but as they are commercial, I can't post them here. They mainly seem to be cartels of delivery agents and you select the best price. I can PM them to you, if you wish- just let me know, or a google will bring them up.

 

Likewise, there are people who calculate price in the method you mention. I have never done that but can pass the details.

 

I don't know your age, but if you are over 60, you might qualify for the Warm Front- heating and insulation. That might be one answer for you.

 

How is Wales today- as beautiful as ever!! I have spent some fantastic times there.

 

Regards, Kenny

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Thanks for the reply, Kenny. It's a good day here in Wales (at least in our part!), the best we've had for quite a while. Diesel here is £1.179, but £1.109 at the nearest decent sized Asda - but thats about 150mls round trip. I've also noticed a massive difference in 47kg propane bottle prices as you move around the country. All last summer we could buy it for £32 here, but at the same time saw it on sale in Thurso for over £50. I think it's £43 now.

I've always cleaned my boiler flue, and there's never been much to clean, so that might indicate the settings aren't too far off. I'll leave it for now. Can't take advantage of the scheme you mentioned, I've 5 yrs to go still!

As regards cost comparisons, I suppose what I'm looking for is pence per B.TH.U. If you have any links to sites which do comparisons along those lines, do send me a PM - thanks!

Edit - sutherlandtables website (hope that's not breaking any rules - if so please delete) seems to have all the info. - at a price!

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Hi and welcome to CAG Lone rider.

 

No sorry, I don't, unfortunately. All I can suggest is phoning around the oil delivery companies in your area, although you'll already know that. As the world barrel price has dropped, it might be worth asking them what the price is likely to be in the next week or 2, ie is it worth buying only a half tank.

 

One tip I can give is to try and tie up with near neighbours and tally up the amount of oil you would all need and then to use that as a bargaining tool with all the suppliers in your area.

 

That way, you would have an order for 5/6/7 full tanks of oil and they are more likely to reduce the price slightly due to economies of scale in the delivery, which could all be done at the same time. You would be creating competition between the suppliers.

 

Once you buy it could you please post the prices.

 

Thanks, Kenny

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Hi Kenny, got the CH Oil from CPL at 53.7p/litre but usually when bill comes in if you pay prompt there is a discount. Didn't have time to phone round but they where rationing at the time as the Tanker that was supposed to come into Inverness Harbour was unable to because of the tides for over a week and BP was rationing out to all other companies until the next tie up.:rolleyes: Cheers Martin

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Thanks for posting Martin.

 

Ah, the impact of weather and the tides. 5/6 weeks ago there was no oil here due to the bad weather, unable to dock. Makes you inventive!!

 

We have a Stanley range, so no cooking when no oil. Ended up cooking in one pot on top of the Morso stove we have- good fun, but don't want to do it all the time!

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Tanker that was supposed to come into Inverness Harbour was unable to because of the tides for over a week

 

Do you know its actually cheaper per mile to deliver by sea than road tanker. Due to bulk and their transport costs.

 

Costs in our areas should reflect that!!

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Hi, I've just joined your forum as I came across the website whilst trying to find 'cheap' price for 1000 litres of oil.

 

I found, as Kenny suggested, ringing every company in my area to find the best price was my only option at getting a 'good' deal.

 

I live on the Suffolk/Cambridge boarder and have just ordered oil at 49.05 per ltr, . I had to haggle a bit to get this so don't be afraid to 'play' one company off the other!

 

I can remember purchasing oil when I bought my first house 15 years ago AT 17P per litre and I thought that was expensive!

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I'm living near Forres (Northern Scotland) and the time has come for me to order some oil.After phoning around,I managed to find out the following prices:

Brogan Fuels 54ppl

Gleaner Oil & Gas 51ppl

CPL 52.9ppl

 

Overall I need 900 litres (the minimum amount).Time to think about a wood burner I guess!

 

I've talked to a few people up here who got together and formed a buying group to get a discount.After negotiation ,the group was able to get a discount of 0.5ppl! Hardly worth bothering with:(

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Overall I need 900 litres (the minimum amount).Time to think about a wood burner I guess!

 

I've talked to a few people up here who got together and formed a buying group to get a discount.After negotiation ,the group was able to get a discount of 0.5ppl! Hardly worth bothering with:(

 

The discount is really disappointing. They currently have us over a barrel.

Sorry, just a bit of humour, given our situation.

 

The Western Isles MP has written to the OFT. I will see what I can find out.

 

Regards, Kenny

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BBC News Player - Oil thefts hit rural areas

BBC News Player - Oil thefts on the rise

BBC News Player - Tankers used in oil theft

 

Oil thefts on the rise- BBC audio link (sorry can't find a text link yet).

 

The problem of theft may will increase. Check your insurance policy, excess and conditions.

 

"A rise in oil prices has lead to an increase in domestic oil thefts, prompting residents to take preventative measures

10 Apr 2008"

 

Check the tank and oil level regularly, secure the tank lid with chain and padlock, use security lighting.

 

Kenny

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We paid 61.4p per litre + VAT

 

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hi just been looking at prices for oil and found this forum! i last filled my tank up 1200 litres last year just before christmas at a cost of around £500. just had a few online quotes cheapest at Today's price is 61.99 pence per litre.

Total price is £743.88 + VAT

anyone else in the suffolk area found it any cheaper or know where i can find info on group buys.

don't know how im going to afford to live at this rate.

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I'm in Cheshire - paid 55.5p last week but I was told it's on the up again. I paid approx. half that only 3 years ago. Guess it's one of the ?perks of living with the cows! I do feel penalised though as I have no fuel option other than electricity - which is looking more economical by the day!

It would be great if there was a comparison site for oil like there is for local petrol (petrolprices.com). Only tip I can offer - I maintain accounts at various suppliers & then just make a few calls before I order.

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Has anyone tried a seach for 'boilerjuice' ?

 

It might just be a local thing. It finds out how many people within your postcode are prepered to order that week and hunts around for the best price. The price says fixed for every one else, even if you choose not to order at that time.

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Just found this thread as I am moving to an area without gas for the first time. Was horrified to see how much oil costs. I did google 'boilerjuice' and they seem to do a lot of the work for you in finding the cheapest quote in your area.

Can anyone explain to me though why it is that when the price of oil drops it doesn't seem to be passed on to the consumer?

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This is the first time I find a useful website for oil price comparison, so thanks for this! I did a price check in boilerjuice and, although I think the service they provide is very good, when I checked against my oil provider (Total Butler - Hampshire) the price per litre was 40.62 against the website at 42.00. The reason it is cheaper might be because I have a direct debit and pay a fixed monthly amount. Worth checking anyway.

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I just tried BoilerJuice thinking it would save a lot of time and calls, but their price range today for 1000L (in Worcestershire) is £39.75 > £49.99, whilst my supplier is now quoting £32.95 (they were nearly 10p/L cheaper than anyone else last time around). I checked whether my supplier knew of them. Their reply was, "yes and we're registered with them, but they will always be more expensive, because they add a charge to ours!" If that's the way it works, it's not quite the same operation as the more widely advertised comparison sites for other services.

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I was concerned about your quote and checked. BoilerJuice do not add a charge. The suppliers enter their oil price directly into the BoilerJuice site and if it is more expensive it is because the suppliers are not putting their cheapest price in. They then quote a cheaper price direct. That's fine if there aren't many suppliers in their area but if there are they could lose more business than they gain as BoilerJuice customers will automatically be sent to the cheapest supplier.

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