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I received a parking ticket from UKPC a couple of days ago. I was parked at the side of a road with no yellow lines, no sign advising of any parking restrictions and not in anyone's way. The ticket was issued for "Vehicle causing obstruction".
Having looked back at where I was parked, I believe I was parked on the exit road from a bowling/cinema complex and that what has happened is that the parking restrictions have been extended from the cinema car park to the entry and exit roads. I did drive trough the car park to get to where I parked on the exit road.
I'm just wondering if anyone can shed some light on where I stand exactly, I've read the legal stuff and the template letters, so I know where things stand from that point of view. I just don't know exactly how that translates to the exit road.
My understandign was that I parked on a public highway, where there would have been yellow lines and signs iff there were parking restrictions, I wan't causing an obstruction, and I have evidence of this - it's a single carriageway one-way road with room for 3 cars side by side.
Incidently, the truck parked behind me that was obstructing the pavement and a lot more of the road escaped a ticket and the two trucks parked in front of me were asked to move to avoid tickets. THey were told to moved past a sign,t hen they'd be ok. The sign in question was asign indicating that they were entering an urban clearway and they were both parked on a roundabout, across a cycle lane!!
I received a parking ticket from UKPC a couple of days ago. I was parked at the side of a road with no yellow lines, no sign advising of any parking restrictions and not in anyone's way. The ticket was issued for "Vehicle causing obstruction".
Having looked back at where I was parked, I believe I was parked on the exit road from a bowling/cinema complex and that what has happened is that the parking restrictions have been extended from the cinema car park to the entry and exit roads. I did drive trough the car park to get to where I parked on the exit road.
I'm just wondering if anyone can shed some light on where I stand exactly, I've read the legal stuff and the template letters, so I know where things stand from that point of view. I just don't know exactly how that translates to the exit road.
My understandign was that I parked on a public highway, where there would have been yellow lines and signs iff there were parking restrictions, I wan't causing an obstruction, and I have evidence of this - it's a single carriageway one-way road with room for 3 cars side by side.
Incidently, the truck parked behind me that was obstructing the pavement and a lot more of the road escaped a ticket and the two trucks parked in front of me were asked to move to avoid tickets. THey were told to moved past a sign,t hen they'd be ok. The sign in question was asign indicating that they were entering an urban clearway and they were both parked on a roundabout, across a cycle lane!!
Anyway, advice please!
You need to find out whether the road is public highway or private land. Make some enquiries with the Road Department of the local council. If its public highway then they have no jurisdiction. UKPC don't seem to take people to court so they will eventually go away.
If it is private land then the Private Parking Companies Guide is valid. They are just trying it on. Wait for them to obtain the RK details from the DVLA (it costs them money) and then use Bernie's template letters.
Don't enter into any arguements about other vehicles or even admit to being there. Play them at their own game.
You've read the legal stuff and Bernie's templates - what is left to advise?
I assume that this is a private ticket, not heard of UKPC acting for councils - that would make a huge difference. Check the ticket, see if it mentions a Council's name and relevent legislation.
On the assumption that this is a good old private ticket then the proposed "fine" is a penalty and therefore unenforceable. In any event the penalty is claimed under an implied contract which is based on signage then where are the signs?
They would have to actually be on the public highway [very, very unlikely] for them to have any effect.
UKPC are not known here for taking anyone to court, therefore ignore or use Bernie's templates - your call.
Thanks People, I guess my main question was whether the parking 'contract' that covers the car park applies to the access road if I've driven through the car park? If I'd parked on the other side of the road then I wouldn't have been able to see the signs, but as I drove through the car park, maybe I did see them, though I have no recollection as I wasn't parking there. I suppose I could say I reversed the wrong way down the access road.
Anyway, I'm not worried about having to pay the fine or anything like that, just wondering how it works as I drove through the car park.
Re: Parking Ticket from UKPC - Advice please- Debt Collectors
Hello
I am on my second letter with UKPC. I have replied again asking for proof of the driver. Has anybody ever been visited by debt collectors omn behalf of this company?
My wife and children are at home all day and the last thing i want is some scum bag putting the frighteners on my wife!
Re: Parking Ticket from UKPC - Advice please- Debt Collectors
Originally Posted by Fact-Hunt
Hello
I am on my second letter with UKPC. I have replied again asking for proof of the driver. Has anybody ever been visited by debt collectors omn behalf of this company?
My wife and children are at home all day and the last thing i want is some scum bag putting the frighteners on mDy wife!
Let me give you a bit of reassurance. Debt Collectors are not bailiffs. bailiffs are authorised by a court to recover money or property to settle a debt or a fine. Debt Collectors do not have anymore authority to collect a debt than you or I. If they were to come round to your house, your wife would be entitled to
ask them to leave and if they failed to do so could call the police and ask for them to be removed.
ignore them all together
Invite them in for a cup of tea
Whatever you do - you don't have to pay them and they cannot seize property in settlement of the debt.
Debt Collectors know all this and don't visit, as it is, usually, a waste of time. It is easier and more cost effective to send a few threatening letters in the hopes of scaring people into paying.
In terms of UKPC I haven't heard of debt collectors knocking on the door. In many cases with PPCs the Debt Collection arm is often the bloke at the next desk (although some use genuine DCAs).
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Parking Ticket from UKPC - Advice please
from UKPC a couple of days ago. I was parked at the side of a road with no yellow lines, no sign advising of any parking restrictions and not in anyone's way. The ticket was issued for "Vehicle causing obstruction".
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