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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 11 January 2008
OFT/BANKS TEST CASE TO BE HELD IN SMALL ROOM - OFT SPOKESMAN "DID NOT REALISE" ROOM ONLY BIG ENOUGH FOR 6 MEMBERS OF PUBLIC
Next Wednesday 16 January, the OFT and Britain's high street banks are due to meet in a High Court battle which will decide whether or not the banks are operating an unlawful charging regime. The case is of great public interest as it could result in the banks having to repay £20 billion or more to about 10 million customers. It has now been revealed that the case will be heard in a room at the International Dispute Resolution Centre in Fleet Street and that there will be space for precisely 11 members of the press and the public. A spokesperson for the centre said that entry will be on a first come first served basis but that the space will be divided roughly equally between the press and the public; and passes will be issued separately for morning and afternoon sessions. This means that, at most, 6 members of the public will be able to attend and no-one will be able to attend a full day. It will be impossible, therefore, for any one person to obtain a complete picture of the proceedings. It will also mean that many newspaper and television/radio reporters will excluded.
A spokesperson for the OFT claimed today that he "did not realise that the room would only hold this number of people".
Bob Egerton, bank charges campaigner, said, "This case is a great embarrassment to the OFT. It has exposed the institutional weakness within the OFT where it is effective at curbing unlawful behaviour by small businesses, but it does not have the stomach for a fight against the big corporations like the banks. By holding the case in such a small room, no member of the public will be able to sit through the whole case; and much of Britain's media will be excluded. The OFT is no doubt hoping that the case will receive little press coverage and that it will all quietly fizzle out. However, I and the many other campaigners will ensure that this issue does not die. We will continue to fight the banks over this issue whatever the outcome of a meeting in a tiny room in London."
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Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
This is an absolute disgrace. Why should we face court as many have done with so many there and yet the banks get a little room with very few. Soooooooooo not fair. Talk about keeping things under wraps. Wrong, so very very wrong.
Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
Tom Brennan had to face everything thrown at him in court. With i dont know how many people for the other side. And a case this Big gets a small room big enough for 11 people. No joke. I hope one of those 11 is someone that has a very loud voice.
Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
It seems that they have also changed the venue to International Dispute Resolution Centre, 70 Fleet Street EC4Y 1EU - and NOT at the High Court.
Now I am not an expert, how can this be a TEST CASE if it is not being held in the High Court. Also, the OFT made a statement at the begining of the TEST CASE and said that it would be held in Public not behind closed doors and this latest information is now that between press and public only 11 will be admitted and the same 11 will not neccessarily get the chance or oportunity to be able to see it through every step of the way. At least the BBC or one of the newspapers should be able to have a seat every day to record the progress or not as the case may be.
Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
Tom Brennan is on BBC on Monday on the morning show regarding the OFT case.
I will be up in the City on Friday, 3 minutes walk away from this venue so I may just pop along during my lunch time to have a snoop about and mingle with the press, and find out what is happening and if I get any snippets I will report back.
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the case is still effectively being held in private, the public/press seats are being allocated on a first come first served basis for both morning and afternoon sessions so no one, press or public will be able to sit through the whole hearing.
good grief my stay appeal in brum was in a full court room bigger than this room.
if the venue cant be changed I think the seats should be allocated to the media and the consumer watchdogs on a full time basis. or maybe its time we went american and put a live feed into the room if the court is like brum it has data feeds there already.
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So choosing the venue has nothing to do with the OFT or the Banks. Glad we cleared that up.
Was anyone actually taking 8 days out of their life to sit through this? If you weren't then it seems a pretty dumb thing to complain about. Do you think there is going to be some underhand deal cut in the courtroom? You have all the documentation that both sides will be relying on but I bet 99.9% of people haven;t even bothered to read that from cover to cover. And I would assume neither the public nor the press will be allowed in when any commercially sensitive market information is being discussed anyway.
At times like this, you would think CAG might actually rally behind the organisation trying to take on the banks. That would be the sensible approach but I guess it's more British to keep sniping at them. "The OFT has moved the court case"! Think about it!
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Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
Originally Posted by Wild Billy
So choosing the venue has nothing to do with the OFT or the Banks. Glad we cleared that up.
Was anyone actually taking 8 days out of their life to sit through this? If you weren't then it seems a pretty dumb thing to complain about. Do you think there is going to be some underhand deal cut in the courtroom? You have all the documentation that both sides will be relying on but I bet 99.9% of people haven;t even bothered to read that from cover to cover. And I would assume neither the public nor the press will be allowed in when any commercially sensitive market information is being discussed anyway.
At times like this, you would think CAG might actually rally behind the organisation trying to take on the banks. That would be the sensible approach but I guess it's more British to keep sniping at them. "The OFT has moved the court case"! Think about it!
The whole point of CAG is that we DON'T have to bother doing all this - we (including me!) get support from others that have information that will assist OUR claims.
How do you know CAG aren't involved? I've seen nothing to suggest that here.
It's posts like this that bring threads like this down - it's designed to give essential information to those that may not have access to it otherwise, as they are ordinary people living ordinary lives that may just be touched by the decision made in this case.
Do you work for the Banks, by any chance? If so, say so and stand up - all opinions are welcome. (Just be aware you are in the minority here) If you don't, where do you lie on the issue? (Just in case I have misunderstood your reasoning here)
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as it could result in the banks having to repay £20 billion or more to about 10 million customers. It has now been revealed that the case will be heard in a room at the International Dispute Resolution Centre in Fleet Street and that there will be space for precisely 11 members of the press and the public. A spokesperson for the centre said that entry will be on a first come first served basis but that the space will be divided roughly equally between the press and the public; and passes will be issued separately for morning and afternoon sessions. This means that, at most, 6 members of the public will be able to attend and no-one will be able to attend a full day. It will be impossible, therefore, for any one person to obtain a complete picture of the proceedings. It will also mean that many newspaper and television/radio reporters will excluded.
Re: OFT test case moved to tiny room. Only 11 spectators allowed (including press)
Originally Posted by Wild Billy
